are the for real ???

[minniesoporno]

Browsing the net for cam sites for the models in my studio to work on

and cam across these guys

http://www.xxxcambabes.com

and http://www.realgirlsoncam.com/

Are they serious

they look really thrown together

[Hony]

Yahoo cam girl stuff - lots of those sites have that throw-together look, but they make money I guess.

Hony

[minniesoporno]

I tired signing up with them

and thier "age verficiation" is some person via Yahoo asking you questions

Y ou would think they would make a model release form so you can print out.

[Hony]

What sort of question proves you are over18? "Do you care if Michael Jackson goes to jail?"

[minniesoporno]

Let me find the convo:

minniesoporno (9:29:00 PM): I was told to email you so you can ask me a few questions
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:48:28 PM): hello hon
minniesoporno (9:48:31 PM): hi
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:48:42 PM): yahoo is acting up today. I just got your im
minniesoporno (9:49:14 PM): oh k
minniesoporno (9:49:22 PM): I was like why email me if your not on yahoo
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:49:33 PM): It's nice to meet you. Your application looked great but I need to ask you a few questions, go over the realgirlsoncam.com Terms of Service with you and if you agree to the TOS, I'll need to verify that you are infact the girl in the pictures you supplied by viewing your cam
minniesoporno (9:50:13 PM): hold on let me set the cam it ook it down when i got my period
minniesoporno (9:50:23 PM): lol my bf might be in the view
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:50:36 PM): oh no probelm hun...it'll be a while i have a few questions first
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:50:42 PM): Would you want RGOC to build, maintain and host your web page?
minniesoporno (9:51:40 PM): i am also a web designer
minniesoporno (9:51:46 PM): and i am going to be a webcam studio soon
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:52:24 PM): so do you have a web page now?
minniesoporno (9:52:33 PM): www.minniesoporno.com
minniesoporno (9:52:46 PM): n making a review site
minniesoporno (9:53:03 PM): too lazy to get the tripod
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:53:11 PM): will do the verification in just a sec
minniesoporno (9:53:15 PM): ok
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:53:28 PM): You must also agree to use your RGOC sub ccbill account as your ONLY method of accepting payments. Are you willing to do that?
minniesoporno (9:53:39 PM): yesss
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:54:29 PM): You must make $75 a week gross to stay on the site.
minniesoporno (9:54:37 PM): ok
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:54:46 PM): RGOC is a small cam site, We are just starting out and building up a client bass. Although we do have some inside traffic, RGOC is not yet a site where you can sit around and wait for traffic to come to you. We provide plenty of resources to help you get traffic but you have to be willing to take plenty of pics, submit your web page to listing sites, and work the yahoo chat rooms to help bring in traffic. Is this some thing your willing to do to be on the site?
minniesoporno (9:55:18 PM): i do cam on 4 sites i got pics
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:55:58 PM): that's wonderful. I'm not very familar with your other sites. what forms of payment to accept with them?
minniesoporno (9:56:31 PM): they have thier own built in payment system
minniesoporno (9:56:37 PM): all i know is i get paid on the 1st and 15th
minniesoporno (9:56:44 PM): and make about 2,000 us from them
minniesoporno (9:56:47 PM): each
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:57:10 PM): do u play on staying on those sites as well as rgoc?
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:57:14 PM): Plan*
minniesoporno (9:57:18 PM): yup need to pay the bills
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:57:45 PM): ok no problem.. You have to agree not to take any rgoc traffic to any of your other sites
minniesoporno (9:57:45 PM): if i do well on them the models in my studio will be working on them too
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:58:33 PM): so you won't be able to link to any of them from your rgoc page
minniesoporno (9:58:43 PM): ok
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (9:59:23 PM): and you will get 70 % of your sales. some is taken out for ccbill feee and some for hosting your site
minniesoporno (10:00:01 PM): i have my own site I thought I would put a page already on the site I have
minniesoporno (10:00:07 PM): why bother pay double hosting
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (10:00:54 PM): yes, i was going to say that yours will be a little less if you plan to use your own page. I'm not sure on the exact % though
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (10:01:18 PM): or your % will be a little more I mean
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (10:01:58 PM): You will actually go thru anther interview once i send you on thru and they will be able to tell you the exact amount
minniesoporno (10:02:06 PM): ok
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (10:02:31 PM): Again, you have no problem with taking your other cam sites off your page?
minniesoporno (10:02:51 PM): my cam section on my website has everything link MY custumers can find me
minniesoporno (10:03:05 PM): I work really hard for my website to get 1,000 hits and growing a day
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (10:05:34 PM): You are perfect for our site but I'm going to talk it over with the boss about your situation. They can work out a deal with you so you can still advertise your other sites as well. I will get back with you when I know more
minniesoporno (10:06:52 PM): ok I have been doing cam shows for 2 years and I design my own website from scatch and since I will have having a studio with girls in the next 3 months fully runing and the review site I need to make sure me and my models have the best places to work on
minniesoporno (10:07:19 PM): and my website www.centuryfreaks.com ( for cam review will be in the local adult section of www.eye.net and http://www.nowtoronto.com/adult
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (10:09:02 PM): it sounds like you are doing great. I've not worked on a situation like yours yet so I need to find out some more about what we can I offer for you
minniesoporno (10:09:21 PM): actually I just started doing great since I got away from the pimp
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (10:09:41 PM): lol, i know the feeling
minniesoporno (10:09:49 PM): you have no idea what i cam eout of
minniesoporno (10:10:07 PM): he took all my money, told me what to wear, eat, when i see my family etc etc
minniesoporno (10:10:41 PM): I am doing being nice going threw the pain and fustration of making a female only webcam company
minniesoporno (10:10:50 PM): and these girls in toronto are real pain the ass
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (10:10:55 PM): let me talk with madi and mark about u I will let you know more when I know more. I just started helping out with interviewing the girls. I know my situation but I'm not familar about what they can offer a girl in your postion
minniesoporno (10:11:09 PM): ok
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (10:11:34 PM): I'll contact as soon as i know more
minniesoporno (10:11:40 PM): ok
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (10:19:27 PM): ok hun. this is not just a cam girl listing site. If you want to be here you wouldn't be able to have any of your other sites on your page. So i'm not sure this would be the best place for you
minniesoporno (10:19:44 PM): ok
minniesoporno (10:19:51 PM): I will go with plan b
realgirlsoncam_cheyenneoncam (10:21:49 PM): thank you for your submission. I think you have bigger plans I'll need to send you an email that basically states what I just told you It's just for our records so pay it no mind thanks for your time
minniesoporno (10:22:08 PM): then dont send me anything and fill up my mail box
minniesoporno (10:22:14 PM): I have to pay for bandwidth on that too

End Convo

[Hony]

The whole yahoo cam girl thing -- it's a different world from the big sites, better not to get mixed up in it if you're planning on goig big time.

Hony

[minniesoporno]

All I know is from my convo with them they think I am too smart for them like they want to con me about something

Maybe I ment for bigger things but I have no idea.

I still have not gotten around to finisihing my website www.minniesoporno.com

I am barely done www.centuryfreaks.com


and then to add on my pile I bought 2 more domains my business domain and a new site I am stuggling to work on .

Like I already work 4 cam sites and 2 phone sites and I quit my day job to make us dollars.

[darkangelbliss]

hehehehe where the hell is all the traffic? The only traffic I ever get in good quanity is from xxxcambabes and things are finally starting to pick up at talksugar... a little bit.
The other site you are talking about seems pretty serious.. I did the Yahoo ID verification with them too.. (I am so scattered) they want to actually SEE you and then have you hold your drivers lisence etc to show it is you. You then will have to do all the standard paperwork. Have not "finished" it there as I have concerns about it actually being too restrictive for me perhaps.. don't know, still thinking. But the site looks great!!!
I am signed up with CamContacts and sexxyeyes.. just have not really been there yet! I read in the forum on www.comcantacts.com that the girls can charge tiny little amounts like .99 cents a minute for cam!! EGADS.. it sounds as though it is hurting the business there for the ones that are not practically giving it away.. of cousre! So.. I am pretty damned leary to actually work from there.. I am a "quality NOT quanity" kind of Vamp! Honestly sexxyeyes look awesome but there damn software etc. seems really awful to figure out & work with-- & I am a website owner.. not usually that "dumb"... also worried about traffic.. any thoughts ladies???

BTW minniesoporno... you are one busy lady.. congrats!!!!

x
oxo
Bliss

[Hony]

CamContacts is one of the cheapest sites -- but they are also very very big. So the amount of money flowing though that place is high, even though it may come in small increments.

Hony

[MadisonStone]

minnie, i can assure that the there was never any concern about you being too smart for us. I know you from other boards and from other webmasters who have had experiences with you. You might want to consider not shooting your mouth off about things you don't understand as it makes you look foolish. I did not know you had applied and Cheyenne did not mention this conversation to me but from what I read, she did exactly the right thing. You were not looking for the services we provide.

For the record, for anyone else who was wondering:

We get a lot of girls applying to get on the site and so we have two girls that do a 'pre-screening' process to make sure that the the girl is a good fit for the site, and vice versa. We do not take every girl who applies. We are serious about working one-on-one with the girls who do appear on the site and about building traffic for the existing girls. Taking everyone would defeat this purpose. If you meet all the criteria in the pre-screening process, you will receive everything you need to know about the site, the signup form, and the model release form.

We ask girls to appear on their cam for a few seconds to show us their picture id as part of the pre-screening process. This enables us to verify that the girl on cam is in fact the girl she says she is. It also allows us to take a screen shot of the girl holding up her id which we can then cross reference with the photocopy she will send in to us later. It shows that she is in fact the girl in the id.

Realgirlsoncam.com is not another yahoo girl listing site. If that's what you are looking for we would be happy to point you in the right direction. What we offer is a turnkey solution for cam girls including a web site, technical support, marketing, information & resources, etc. etc. We process through CCBill. For our services we charge 25-30% which includes the CCBill processing fees, hosting, etc.

If anyone has any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Gossip on boards is rarely a reliable source of information.

Cheers,

Madison
yahoo - madisonstonexxx
icq - 149918953
aol - madisonstonexxx
email: madison at realgirlsoncam.com

[darkangelbliss]

Just to set the record straight... when I said I

[MadisonStone]

understood.... for girls who are already set up wtih their own sites and with an existing client base, it probably is too restrictive. Most of the girls we work with do not have a web site when they come to us.... or have something on geocities. But there have a been a couple of exceptions so do hit me up some time. We may still be able to work together

Thank you for your support!