N00b just starting up....need help

[klee]

So here is what I plan on doing:

I have some investors who are willing to put up 8-10K max:

I am creating both an AVS site and a webcam site

I have my domain registered

I am setting up an account with CCBill

I have selected the host for my sites (60GB storage/10mbs unlimited bandwidth)

I am securing content for the AVS site(images and streaming video) and the software to create both sites (Photoshop, Dreamweaever, Video Capture software/hardware, AVS builder)

I plan on putting link on AVS site that goes to webcam site...

I have access to around a dozen girls who are willing to participate in my webcam site

I need:

Affordable Webcam software or(more likely) need referal for affordable webcam host...I was looking at stuff like Firecracker Video(too expensive) XBlivewire, Nearlythere (Fronkick and Sidekick) and jamoncam.com …the front/sidekick stuff seems reasonable and I could probably use it on my web host….then again, would I be better off with a dedicated webcam service/host seprate from my other AVS site which would reside on another host’s server?

I would create the webcam site, and the webcam service would provide the hosting, software and headaches for which I would pay a monthly fee…is that correct?


I know these are a lot of questions but any help you can provide would be great

Thanks in advance

Kelly


PS. I was planning on using CyberAge as my AVS provider and I have tried to contact CyberAge via e-mail, but I have been having trouble getting a response from them and am looking on taking my business elsewhere...

What would be some good AVS provider alternatives?

[Hony]

Hi Kelly, welcome to the forum.

It seems you've made some firm plans on some aspects but I'm not sure how they all tie in. When you say an "AVS site" for example, what connection has this to the webcam site?

I'm afraid your capital available really isn't enough to start in a big way so you're going to have to be looking for innovative ideas, think out of the box. Remember that any webcam site has a basic chicken-and-egg problem. No girls, no customers. But also, no customers, no girls.

The typical way around it is to pay girls to be there even when there are no customers. This is often done via a studio. However that costs $, and while it is happening you have to be doing whatever you can to get customers -- advertising, promotions etc, all of which also costs $.

Good luck with your plan.

Hony

[klee]

Hi hony....

Thank you for the reply and the warm welcome

My AVS site will have "themed" images and streaming video

The webcam site will be @ a different web address and will be a full pay site (not an AVS) but will have links to/from the AVS site (hopefully whatever AVS provider I use will allow this kind of thing)

My investors will be taking care of the girls and insist they will have a healthy supply of them...

The AVS site is my baby but they really want to do a webcam site too so I am trying to get all associated costs together so I can submit an accurate budget for all of this...

Again, Thanks for the replay and any more feedback you can give me

Kelly

[klee]

For now, I will just focus on the webcam site:

I am looking to use videocam software for my site and I was wondering if anyone had comments (good or bad) on these or any other services:

http://www.jamoncam.com/

http://www.firecrackervideo.com/

http://www.nearlythere.net/

I am kinda gravitating towards nearlythere's frontkick and sidekick software which seems really affordable compared to some others...plus I have heard a couple of people are using them and seem happy....I just need some more feedback before I spend $4-5K

Jamoncam is pretty expensive, but they seem to hold your hand throughout the whole process (for a price) and will send you traffic (1000 people a day) for $500 a month....expensive but worth it if you are getting premium traffic with a propensity to buy adult webcam services....

Firecracker seems to be a large outfit that has been around for a long time....more expensive than Front/Sidekick ($5400 for a 5 person license)but their monthly rates seem really affordable ($338/month to use their servers)compared to jamoncam..

ATM, I am leaning towards just buying the Front/sidekick software....designing my site and using a 3rd party webhost...saving myself money in the process....is this a good idea?

Any feedback you can give me will mean alot as both me and my investors are ready to pull the trigger...we just want to make the best choice we can..

Thank you very much

Kelly

[Reb]

Kelly

Before you do anything, I'd reccomend talking to Jeffrey at www.odysseycam.com
His software is kick ass and he gives customer service second to none.

Reb

[klee]

I have (yet another) question;advertising

If I get software from nearlythere...I will have to find a way to create traffic for my site...

How much does this cost per month

As I said before, the rep from Jamoncam said they would send me 1000 people a day to my site for $500/month....is this how much I would have to spend myself if I had to go with Front/Sidekick?

Thanks again

Kelly

[juggernaut]

Hello everyone and sorry I have not been around but extremely busy. Anyway klee if you are on the serious budget you have not looked or at least not mentioned EMULive. They are by far not the best but have been around from sometime, but from what I have seen they offer their software on a month to month basis. IE 10 streams cost around 3700 for the year. From what I can tell you would still need a backend, the software also from what I can tell does not intergrate with ccbill but they do have a spot in the server section to place a custom DLL in it. Which I dont know for sure but I think you might be able to swing it with them. Anyway I have seen both sides of this software and it's not bad for the price. You wont own anything but then again with the other software you wont own them either. Before you buy this might be a good package for you to look over and start small. One nice thing is if you need to increase your hosts, I'm sure you can just email them, pay them and they will send you a license key to make sure your software will work with the increased hosts. anyway here is the link for them

http://www.emulive.net/order/index.shtml

Hope this helps. By the way they have a downloadable demo.

[Jeffrey007]

Hello Klee,
I think I can help you with all that you require (and at a buget that will suit your needs as well:-)

YahooID: jeffreyoo7

[AWSP]

Ok well I'm tired of looking at all these sites .. and pointing out facts that are right in front of peoples faces....

Here is WHAT I DO KNOW!

BE AWARE OF HOSTING COMPANIES THAT SAY THEY GIVE YOU 60GB SPACE and 10 MBS (10 MegaBits a Sec << WTF is that ? what's your monthly limit on Bandwidth in Gigs ??) UNLIMITED BANDWIDTH ..
Most the time if you read the small print you will see that if you are running a site with LOTS of images/videos .. you do not qualify for the unlimited package .. and they will hit you with a nice size monthly bill for your bandwidth since you didn't read their fine print .. Also ASK what their overage costs are for bandwidth and space.. Be aware that a $50/mth hosting bill can turn into a $2000/mth hosting bill over night.

Be aware of the fact that Most of the people who get on the internet don't know how to use their PCs very well.. IE if they have to download some software to see your streams 5 outa 10 will go somewhere else.

Marketing is easy for those who know how .. I could slam your site with 1million hits a day.. But does this mean you will make 1million sales HELL no .. rofl .. traffic is easy to get .. traffic that is exactly what you are looking for and that will convert is very hard... and takes time mostly.. $500 a month rofl .. thats a rip off ..

Also Emulive >>> 10 streams means 9 people watching 1 person streaming.... I can give you better price then that per stream.

Personally I can't believe you suggested that Jug. =( ..

What do you mean by AVS? Adult Verification System ? ? ? or site ?
If your talking about a membership site, and are going to be adding your own content etc... Check out my software http://AdultWebsitePro.com .. It is designed to allow you to add as much content and links as you like via an admin panel. No paying a webmaster every time you want to add something, or if you code your self then less of that also. Having dreamweaver would be a plus but you wouldn't need it.

FireCracker Software has been around long time, When you purchase from them you are actually Getting the software, meaning you have something to sell if all goes flop. Most the other software you own nothing... and you pay them monthly for it or the hosting of it...

You can see sites using FireCracker all over the internet.

"ATM, I am leaning towards just buying the Front/sidekick software ....designing my site and using a 3rd party webhost...saving myself money in the process....is this a good idea?"

If i read this right you will need your own server either dedicated (best choice, I can offer a dedicated machine 120gig HD, 900Gigs bandwidth, 100MBS Burst capable, a month for right around $200 or so a month.), or a Co-Located machine (kind of a hassle; must supply all the software etc.. you are responsible if the hardware dies etc..)

BUT i found NO demo at all on Front/sidekick software site .. if i missed it oh well it wasn't in easy to find place. They look like they are selling it cheap, but lets take a look at it .. you have to purchase the stream amount, then the payper view module, and setup fee for SideKick, and if you want their site builder purchase that (looks like you HAVE to buy this), OH and lets not forget the setup fee for the FrontKick.. Hmm seems like they would be giving you a RealKick for your money.......

As for http://www.odysseycam.com/ well nice site .. i hope he spent as much time on his software as he spent on that site. then again the site could be a template for 40$ .. . i looked for a demo .. again didn't find one .. checked out the sites listed .. no one on .. hhmm .. and still What Do You get ? are you buying software or are you paying them to use their software? they say they will host it.. so this leads me to believe your are renting it. Lol they also send you off to a "Live Site" that you have to pay to get in .. bleh .. not bloody likely .

You want honesty, you want to know what your doing in terms you can understand .. talk to me .. I don't charge for my opion/advice .. I can answer all your questions about FireCracker, and have several other options available, some are cheaper then others. I can even custom design you software.

Outa here AWSP .

[seymore]

im very familiar with them all..
and www.nearlythere.net's sidekick is the way to go!

jc

[Digi]

I will second that, Nearly There is top notch, and Dan is a great guy. You can see it live @ www.camgirlsxxx.com altho please know that this is a heavily modded version of Nearly There software, which you needed some help with it, I woul dbe more than happy to assist in some way.


--Shawn

[minniesoporno]

You can get free hosting on host.camz

your might even be able to work out a deal and use thier macromedia flash broadcaster sofware

but I recently went to the macromedia website and noticed that thier webcam softwars is 499.00

but I have no clue how you would install it i am not good at server stuff.

[Jeffrey007]

The macromedia Software you are referring to is the Flash Comm server... a streaming server, you need to build an application around that (i.e the model software user web based application ...admin software etc etc, and thats just the beginning... you will need flash coders proficient in flash programming, need data base work, web developement etc etc. The $499 price is only a small begining to a large project.

[marcus]

Odysseycam would be a big mistake for anyone looking to get in the adult business. Jeffrey never finsishes anything and he has defrauded me out of thousands of dollars for products and services he has failed to provide. Why do you think he uses Western Union? So you can't ever get your money back if you needed to do a chargeback cause you got ripped.

[Jeffrey007]

Why is it everytime OdysseyCam is about to or launches a new product, someone always does some lame defamatory bla bla bla post.

In any case whoever you are Marcus who used western union, (since its been years since we have taken them)

Contact OdysseyCam so we may figure out what is your issues, (providing this is a real claim)...

Posting on a 3 year old thread is semi boring. Dont think you would have been able to sneak it in otherwise LOL

I got called first thing in morning about this.. found it rather interesting... Personally I love a good Battle/Drama .. Sales always pick up around that stuff

Though I doubt Hony would feel the same , Its her forum, its up to her to decide the fate of this thread...

For those of you who dont know OdysseyCam has now launched after 3 years of research and development OdysseyCam 4.5 Beta.
OdysseyCams Movement sensitive video architecture utilizing the Adobe Flash Media Server 3.5...

Yes everyone its all flash now

Was going to launch a more spectacular post in a few weeks...some things never change in this industry ... what can I say


Regards,
Jeffrey Miller CEO