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videomaster
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Joined: 28 Nov 2004


Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:15 pm    Post subject: Any "Real Performers" / Any "Real Performers"

Any "Real Performers"

I need some Real Performers who can put on a show to an audience. Who speaks to the audience instead of typing. No, one on one, shows where you are told what to do, here you are in control.

I do not need or want too many performers. I need a few good girls with imaginations who can act. Who dances, teases and seduces the audience with her act.

You will work two sites simultaneously. One with chat that contains only the audience, the other with you in the chat room and capable of interacting with the audience. Our performers will earn 60% of sales. There is no limit to the number of simultaneous viewers. Our per minute price has not yet been determined but we want and will advertise to get audiences. Guys/Girls... What would be a good price for a good performance? What kind of performance would you prefer?

If any of you are interested, register at http://www.rate-my-live-cam.com After we approve your profile, upload some pictures, mail us the name of the site where you work most often and your screen name. We will link your profile to that site and get you business even if we decide to not have you perform at our sites.

Please ask any questions here.

Thank You!
 
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videomaster
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Joined: 28 Nov 2004


Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:43 am    Post subject: / Any "Real Performers"

What was two sites is now six sites soon to be eight sites soon to be 12 sites all with their own unique name and look. Two logins will put the performers on all of the sites. I'd prefer to not post all the links as that information is not needed by the general public. That information will be known by the "few" performers that are chosen to be on the sites. The chosen performers will have all of my contact info and can be paid by any means that makes them happy every two weeks. 
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Hony
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Joined: 25 Jan 2003


Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:38 am    Post subject: / Any "Real Performers"

videomaster, I understand your desire to keep info under control but you need to know that anything that can be seen as "secrecy" will greatly reduce your ability to establish good contacts and a good reputation with hosts.

That's just the way it is -- particularly for the sort of sophisticated individual performer you are looking for; they tend to be quite selective about where they work.

It's actually a sellers (girls) market -- new sites need to do whatever they can to prove they are legitimate. And being out in the open is one way to do that.

Hony
 
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videomaster
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Joined: 28 Nov 2004


Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:44 am    Post subject: / Any "Real Performers"

Please Hony call me Nick Cool

It's not secrecy it's business. This is a public place. It's not somewhere to disclose a business plan but I'll let you in on a small part of the plan. Each of the hosts will receive their own site. Each will earn 75% of their own sales from their site and 15% of the sales for time sold from the other girls on "their" site. No hosting fee, no bandwidth fee, no fees except what is taken from my payment processor. Their 75% and 15% is after the processing fee! Confused?

Host 1 ownes Site 1... Host 1 does a show at site 1. Host one gets 75% Host 2 does a show at site 1, host 2 gets 60%, host 1 gets 15%. Nick gets 10% in 6 months.

Nicks Site... All sales from my site, host gets 60%

Contacts, hum, not sure I need contacts. Like a studio boss? Dont want studios just a few good performers. Good reputation, the hosts will love me! They will be spoiled rotten! I am sure once this gets rolling the hosts will be begging but they wont get in until the business is there for them.

I know it's a seller (girls) market but how many hosts can honestly say that they are really happy and content with where they work and the money they make? The "few" ladies will be able to honestly say they are happy with where they work and the money they make.

Nick
 
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videomaster
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Joined: 28 Nov 2004


Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:17 pm    Post subject: / Any "Real Performers"

Hi Kitty

Did you read my posts?

It's great that you are independent and have your own payment processor. How do you get your business? From the yahoo sites? Do you spam in those yahoo pay to play rooms? The rooms that only hold 40 people and have 30 to 40 hosts spamming 24/7? To get 75% after holdback and fees?

Good Luck!
Nick <~ My real name that is on all the sites legal disclaimer and usc statement along with my last name and full home address
 
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Hony
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Joined: 25 Jan 2003


Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:48 pm    Post subject: / Any "Real Performers"

Nick,

I understand your position regarding keeping your business plan under wraps -- and that's why I put "secrecy" in qutoation marks; it is how not how you see it -- but it *is* how others may see it. I also understand the position of the host -- having been there also.

Just trying to alert you to what Misshellkitty is also saying -- and thank her for saying it clearly because 90% of the girls reading will have the same thought but won't say it.

The hosts -- and that's what I meant by contacts, contact with hosts -- may love you when they try you -- but how are you going to convince them to try you?

The girls working as independent camgirls tend to be very, er... "independent". Smile I mean mentally independent, they want to do things *their* way.

I know as a camgirl I would never sign up with a site that didn't explain very clearly -- *in public* -- the whole deal. If there are no pages published with the rules, the terms, the percentages... I won't even bother to signup an enquiry form.

Sorry, that's just the state of the industry at the moment.

Hony
 
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videomaster
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Joined: 28 Nov 2004


Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: / Any "Real Performers"

Hony,

The "Independent" hosts are usually the worst hosts. Most do very little business when competing with numerous hosts on a site so they go it alone. Many have a poor attitude. They claim to be independent but in reality how many hosts do what they want on cam and make real money? Aren't the hosts expected to take orders from their customers? Stand, sit, bend over, do this, do that, ect, ect,ect? I'm not looking for puppets on a string. I can do without the negative hosts who see only the bad side of everything.

I am not trying to convince the hosts to try me, they have to convince me to try them. The site I asked hosts to signup at is a rating site. It requires only basic registration info and links to whatever site they currently work. It's free advertising! It gives me an oportunity to see the hosts pics, see how their customers rate their performance and allows the customer to post comments.

Nick
 
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darkangelbliss
Old hand


Joined: 15 May 2004

Location: florida

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:34 pm    Post subject: / Any "Real Performers"

All cam girls are actually "independent" thus we need to use our soc.sec number and maintain our own tax records and payments... we are independent contractors. There are as many types of performers in the industry as there are sites.. can't imagine why you would label "The Independent hosts are usually the worst hosts. Most do very little business when competing with numerous hosts on a site so they go it alone. Many have a poor attitude." I found your remark "Aren't the hosts expected to take orders from their customers? Stand, sit, bend over, do this, do that, ect, ect,ect?" offensive and crude. A good performer loves what they do and treats her job with professionalism... mutual respect from both parties is expected. No, I do not take orders... or allow someone to act like I am thier personal piece of meat to order around. I have a mutual respectful relationship with the viewer and we always have a great time... or I do not perform. As for the idea that performers that do not work for a site have a hard time getting business or making money.. nonesense! Keeping all monies minus smallish payment processing fees can be very lucrative as oppossed to doing lots of little shows for 50%. There are avenues for everyone.. options are always good and it is important to find what works best for the individual.
I see your peepchat area on your site charges 50 cents per minute. I also noticed that your sign-up does require a soc.sec number. I signed up as a viewer and did not see any self promo for the 2 girls that are available to be "rated." Maybe I missed it "After we approve your profile, upload some pictures, mail us the name of the site where you work most often and your screen name. We will link your profile to that site and get you business even if we decide to not have you perform at our sites" but I could not find out where the 2 girls work from?
I agree with Hony and misshellkitty.. I need all the rules, regulations and benefits before Iwould sign up anywhere.. contracts, disclosures, the payment processer you will use...everything! What I do not need is another place to have my photos hang out on the internet with no benefit to me. What I think everyone wants is a reputable, honest and professionally run site that has respect for the perfomers and viewers!

Bliss
 
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videomaster
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Joined: 28 Nov 2004


Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:51 pm    Post subject: / Any "Real Performers"

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All cam girls are actually "independent" thus we need to use our soc.sec number and maintain our own tax records and payments... we are independent contractors.


I was using independent as defined by the others who posted in this thread.

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can't imagine why you would label "The Independent hosts are usually the worst hosts. Most do very little business when competing with numerous hosts on a site so they go it alone


I have seen and experienced.

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I found your remark "Aren't the hosts expected to take orders from their customers? Stand, sit, bend over, do this, do that, ect, ect,ect?" offensive and crude.


That is a question not a remark. Do you believe it true? Please state some sites where hosts can do what they want as opposed to what they are directed to do. Tell me honestly how many paying viewers will return to a host who does what they want as opposed to what they want and are paying to see.

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I see your peepchat area on your site charges 50 cents per minute. I also noticed that your sign-up does require a soc.sec number.


The peepnchat site is a voyeur site. It is not an up and running site. When it is up and running, yes, a SS# is required.

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I signed up as a viewer and did not see any self promo for the 2 girls that are available to be "rated."


That site is a free advertising site for hosts. There is no link to the hosts site until the host is on at a cam site and logged in at the rating site. It is called Rate My [be]Live[/be] Cam

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I need all the rules, regulations and benefits before Iwould sign up anywhere.. contracts, disclosures, the payment processor you will use...everything!


My post asked for hosts to register at the rating site. There are no fees or payment processing. It is free advertising.

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What I do not need is another place to have my photos hang out on the internet with no benefit to me.


You registered at the rating site. I approved you, now if you chose to do so, you may upload pics and mail me the link to the site where you work. When you are online at your cam site you can login at the rating site. After you login there will be a link in your profile that will take people directly to the link you provided me with.

I'm taking a lot of slack here for what? Because others did not understand my original post. The rating site is free advertising. The site I am looking for hosts is a unique site where I need real performances. A site where the hosts are not directed by the viewers but put on a show to paying audiences. Not one on one private shows.
 
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Aprils_Freaky_shows
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Joined: 11 Jun 2005


Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:13 am    Post subject: / Any "Real Performers"

Hi there
I am interested but I would like to know why is it that I am getting some kind of dating site?

Is this right? I dont want to join any site that has the impression that I am available to meet in person and possibly a relationship.

Am I reading this wrong?

love and laughs
April
 
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mistressscarletx
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Joined: 18 Feb 2004


Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:18 am    Post subject: / Any "Real Performers"

Some of the things you have posted sound quite insulting to cam hosts.

There are many professional cam hosts who are independent, and many work a cam site plus do their independent shows from customers they gain themselves from their own websites. Most who have worked a site become independent, not because they can't make it on a large site, but because they do much better as an independent.

Hony has been around a long time and it's interesting to me that you seem to be ignoring everything she has said.
 
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mistressscarletx
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Joined: 18 Feb 2004


Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:21 am    Post subject: / Any "Real Performers"

oh wow. April is correct.

If you click on Peep N Chat it takes you to a site that says

"Chat With Hopeful International Brides!"

what is that and why are you wanting people to register there?
 
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Hony
Site Admin


Joined: 25 Jan 2003


Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:26 am    Post subject: / Any "Real Performers"

This is an old thread.. Some people have strong ideas that are not subject to input from others. No point in wasting your energy on that, let them test their ideas against the real world and see what happens.

Hony
 
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minniesoporno
Old hand


Joined: 28 Oct 2004

Location: Toronto

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:26 am    Post subject: / Any "Real Performers"

If there is a good performer out there that does all the things listed they are probably working with a site they trust and pays on time and they are most likely not interested in trying someone new when what they have works. 
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camalot
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Joined: 07 Jun 2004

Location: Earth

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:31 pm    Post subject: / Any "Real Performers"

There's a lot of "real" performers here, but you need to demo the sites so that we can check them out. Sorry, but I get the feeling you are trying to hide something. (no offense) 
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