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Hony
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Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:19 pm Post subject: How many sites do you work? / How many sites do you work? |
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People seem to agree that to make any real money, the consensus is that you've got to work mulitple sites. My question is, how many sites do all of you work? Is there any suggestion on an optimum number that one host should work on to effectively promote herself?
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Martina
Old hand
Joined: 27 Oct 2003
Location: Germany, Hamburg
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:21 pm Post subject: / How many sites do you work? |
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Hey Hony,
I work on 3 sites (german sites) at the same time. In Germany exsists only 3 big sites (99cams,px24 and visitx) with real good traffic, so it does`t make sense to work on more sites for me. On german sites this isn`t a problem, because no site has free-videochats. I think there is a difference, when I work on international sites with free-chats, I can only work on one site, otherwise I will show too much in free-chat, because all customers see the same).
when I work with phone (call-cam.com) one site is enough, there is enough traffic (when you work in the "rush-hours") and you can`t work on other sites at the same time, because customers will leave you when they see the phone in your hand or on your ear.
regards,
Martina |
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aliciablue
Newbie
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: Home
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:03 am Post subject: / How many sites do you work? |
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Hi Hony,
Wish i had three good sites to work for.
MArtina i also host my chatroom on px24 but traffic is dead for english speaker.As i don't know a single word in german for me is a dead room my room.
I am currently hosting my chat in ImLive and sometimes on spread4u( too many beggars in the freechat low rate in nude) iFriends for me is like so dead also ( cause lots of people have mutiple sessions).I sometimes do shows on yahoo ... well that is how i work.
Kisses 2 you all,
Alicia Blue
P.S my site is coming up soon .  |
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petita
Not so new
Joined: 16 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 2:09 am Post subject: / How many sites do you work? |
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I perform on iFriends only and usually open only one session, but open a second one when it's slow. For me personally its hard to operate a few sessions on a few sites, even two sessions on ifriends, because viewers have tend to come visit me on both sessions at the same time  I just got back from my two months long vacations and it is kinda slow yet.. Before i took vacations it worked good for me. So i can't say that i make really good money now, hope traffic will picks up soon. |
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Lorrie
Old hand
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Portland, Oregon USA
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:37 am Post subject: Re: How many sites do you work? / How many sites do you work? |
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I only work at one site.
IMO, I think it's best to give 110% at one site with promoting, advertising, etc. at one site than to be on multiple sites and possibly not do as well a job in optimum service & promoting yourself.
You can make thousands of dollars each month working at one site. I'm sure at all the pioneer sites that have been around for years, people are making as much money as executives in large corporations.
I honestly think the key to making big bucks is working 10+ hours every day at any high traffic site, and having a helluva great personality. Anything else helps, but is not necessary. I've studied enough top earners on the Internet to know this. You won't have an offline social life, but you'll have plenty of dough! 
It's about what you want in life; what's more important. |
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Martina
Old hand
Joined: 27 Oct 2003
Location: Germany, Hamburg
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| Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 5:55 am Post subject: / How many sites do you work? |
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Hello,
Lorie, do you know an USA site which has enough traffic to work only there ? On german sites my problem is that there aren`t so much customers. If I have one guest in my cam-session I close the other sites, but it is hard to get any customers, so (in Germany) you have to be on 3 or more sites.
I tried ImLive, but the traffic was too small after the first time. the same on iFriends. so if you know a site with good traffic, please tell me.
thank you,
Martina |
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Hony
Site Admin
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:48 am Post subject: / How many sites do you work? |
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This is the real big problem you identify -- how to get good traffic when you are NEW to a site. I'm sure ImLive and iFriends have lots of traffic, but getting a share of it when you are a new host is hard.
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Lorrie
Old hand
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Portland, Oregon USA
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:39 am Post subject: / How many sites do you work? |
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| Martina wrote: | Hello,
Lorie, do you know an USA site which has enough traffic to work only there ? On german sites my problem is that there aren`t so much customers. If I have one guest in my cam-session I close the other sites, but it is hard to get any customers, so (in Germany) you have to be on 3 or more sites.
I tried ImLive, but the traffic was too small after the first time. the same on iFriends. so if you know a site with good traffic, please tell me.
thank you,
Martina |
Mind you, I'm only going by what hosts have *claimed*; I have not seen anyone's paycheck other than my own. BUT, these hosts are always online working.
The site you mentioned, Imlive is one; people have made a lot of money there, whether they be newbies or old--it doesn't matter. It's all about working your ass off and having great business smarts in dealing with the guests. |
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Lorrie
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Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Portland, Oregon USA
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:55 am Post subject: / How many sites do you work? |
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| Hony wrote: | This is the real big problem you identify -- how to get good traffic when you are NEW to a site. I'm sure ImLive and iFriends have lots of traffic, but getting a share of it when you are a new host is hard.
Hony |
I think you have to look at it this way:
This job is the same as being a small business owner. Like most small business owners, struggling for months to maybe even a year is a given. That's the life of an entrepreneur! But if, as a business owner, you are willing to put in a ton of hours, sacrificing your social life big time, and have great common sense on how to deal with the public, you'll make lots of money. That's how Donald Trump and others do it! There's always the exceptions--the overnight successes who can make lots of money quickly, but I think those are very rare.
Also, I'd like to add: We are in the entertainment business. And like any other entertainment business, some people can be more successful than others in ways of birth. If you are under 30 and not a minority, this is a plus in our business, because that's who most people in society are interested in seeing. Unfortunate, but true. But still there are lots of money to be made for people who are a minority and are older. Again the key is working a lot of hours and knowing how to give above excellent customer service, IMO. |
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Martina
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Joined: 27 Oct 2003
Location: Germany, Hamburg
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:43 am Post subject: / How many sites do you work? |
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| Hony wrote: | This is the real big problem you identify -- how to get good traffic when you are NEW to a site. I'm sure ImLive and iFriends have lots of traffic, but getting a share of it when you are a new host is hard.
Hony |
Hello,
is this the problem on international sites? I have other experiences with german sites. In Germany no one cares if you are a new chathost or not. Or the customers like "new faces" and so it is easier when you are new. In Germany only two things are interesting to get customers (and if you are a good chathost, it is no problem to chat with customers for a longer time, the point is to get customers).
first is how to manage it to be always on the "first positions" on the front page from the camsite.
second is the traffic from the site. In Germany this is easier than in USA, there are only 3 sites with much traffic and so you can work on this sites and make money. you can be a very, very good chathost, if you work on other sites you won`t have customers, because these sites haven`t enough traffic.
perhaps there is a difference between Germany and USA, I don`t know.
regards,
Martina |
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Hony
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Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:57 am Post subject: / How many sites do you work? |
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I think that most of the big spenders are the guys who really want to build up a "relationship" with the hosts. These are the guys who end up making marriage proposals and are (mostly) serious.
e.g. the ones who can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality.
For those types; they want to see the same girls again and again so they can build up that relationship. It isn't just a sex show for them.
What % of viewers are in this category? Maybe that varies by country.
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Lorrie
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Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Portland, Oregon USA
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:20 am Post subject: / How many sites do you work? |
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| Hony wrote: | I think that most of the big spenders are the guys who really want to build up a "relationship" with the hosts. These are the guys who end up making marriage proposals and are (mostly) serious.
e.g. the ones who can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality.
For those types; they want to see the same girls again and again so they can build up that relationship. It isn't just a sex show for them.
What % of viewers are in this category? Maybe that varies by country.
Hony |
Yes, you're right! That's the hardest for me. I mean, I am very nice and friendly, but guests often mistake that for being really interested in them!
The best way I know how to curb that serious love for me is to remind them from time to time that I have a boyfriend. It's not very sexy, me telling them I have a guy in my life (unless knowing that turns them on more; there are all kinds of fetishes! ), but that's the only thing I can think of to stop them from taking me that seriously and out of fantasy. Most eventually give up on trying to meet me in real life and then stop seeing me in video. But there are some big spenders who has kept it at a fantasy only relationship. |
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Hony
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Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:12 am Post subject: / How many sites do you work? |
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I wonder if girls ever really do hook with guys they meet? Particularly the girls from places like the Philippines where they are generally pretty anxious to get out of the country.
It's a variation of brides-by-mail!
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Lorrie
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Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Portland, Oregon USA
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:50 am Post subject: / How many sites do you work? |
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| Hony wrote: | I wonder if girls ever really do hook with guys they meet? Particularly the girls from places like the Philippines where they are generally pretty anxious to get out of the country.
It's a variation of brides-by-mail!
Hony |
Many probably do.....Yes, the Internet has certainly changed the dating life!
So far, I've only met people who have been dating or married to someone they met online for a short period of time--like less than 2 years. |
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Martina
Old hand
Joined: 27 Oct 2003
Location: Germany, Hamburg
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:30 am Post subject: / How many sites do you work? |
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| Hony wrote: | I think that most of the big spenders are the guys who really want to build up a "relationship" with the hosts. These are the guys who end up making marriage proposals and are (mostly) serious.
e.g. the ones who can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality.
For those types; they want to see the same girls again and again so they can build up that relationship. It isn't just a sex show for them.
What % of viewers are in this category? Maybe that varies by country.
Hony |
hey Hony,
I think here is the difference between our countries. Of course you have these customers in Germany also. But in the last year all people which promote camsites (mostly the webmasters) advertised the camsites with "real livedates with girls" or "cams with real dates" and so on. this is the main advertising, so customers think, they can meet all camgirls in real live. and not for a real relationship or perhaps marriage or things like this, but for a real sex-date. so the most customers think all camgirls want to meet them real for a sex date. most customers think all camgirls are interested in "one night stands with customers" (and for free, not for money).
of course this is a big lie. but most of the customers believed it. so - as a german chathost you have the most customers which want to meet you in real live, the first question is "where are you from" and "when can I meet you". and the most chathosts are lying also, you find phrases like "I search real dates" or "livedate possible" in most chathosts profiles. this is how things in Germany are at the moment. customers believe that they can have real sex-dates with the chathosts and as a chathost you have no chance. either you lie and say "okay, livedates are possible, but I have to know something more about you, before I meet you", than you can talk with customers, change photos and so on. this works some weeks than your customer realises that this is a lie and tries it with the next girl. at the moment most german camgirl do so.
I don`t want to discuss if this is good or bad. I `m not working so, but if you don`t do it it is hard to get money in Germany at the moment.
But I want to know something about these things in USA. I think there is a difference. I ve never found camsites in USA which were advertised with "our girls want real livedates". I ve never found profiles from chathosts which write "livedates possible". And most of my USA (or english or swedish) customers want a show, want to talk with me, see me as a "internet friend", but no one asked me for "real livedate".
why is there such a difference? Or - is my opinion that these difference exists right? Or is it the same with "real livedates" in USA and only I don`t know it?
regards,
Martina |
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