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spacedust Not so new
Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:29 am Post subject: Livejasmin payment, cheating with currencies? / Livejasmin payment, cheating with currencies? |
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Hello,
I been LiveJasmin member quite a long time, as some other camsites too...
Now one thing about livejasmin is really started to piss me off, payment options.
As some of you maybe know, they charge Euros from european customers, and US Dollars from US customers, but how many been thinking about exchange rates?
For example, when member from USA buy 50 credits cost for him is 50 USD, and if member from Europe buy 50 credits cost is 50 EUR = 70 USD, does that sound right for you? no, but thats how it is, and as reason for this they just say:
"the currency You are charged in depends on Your physical location as well as the associated processor" and "Unfortunately, it is something that we are unable to influence."
So they say they are unable to influence to this matter, but what you think will happen if someone from example Ukraine buy 50 credits, is the cost 50 UAH = 6 USD? this is what it should be if they are unable to influence to this matter, but i am almost certain that if member is from location where local money rate is less than USD, they will use USD no matter what they tell us european customers.
And for performers there, do you know that you are being cheated as well, because if they tell you they pay you 35% from the amount that member spend in your private show, do you really get paid 35% from 70 USD that i spend to use 50 credits with you?
I believe they still pay you only 35% from 50 USD and then you been cheated because in fact i have spend amount or 70 USD so they should pay you 35% from 70 USD, right?
This is the real reason why they dont change this system, and start to charge equal amount from all customers, they use this method to gain more to themself.
It is not truth that they cant influence to this, most other camsites i been using always convert the charged amount to euros, so i pay 35 EUR from 50 USD credits. |
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Horny Joe Not so new
Joined: 01 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:19 am Post subject: Re: Livejasmin payment, cheating with currencies? / Livejasmin payment, cheating with currencies? |
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| spacedust wrote: |
i am almost certain that if member is from location where local money rate is less than USD, they will use USD no matter what they tell us european customers. |
They actually use Euros everywhere outside the USA. I bet US customers get to pay in USD only because they don't want to lose such a big market. |
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spacedust Not so new
Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:49 pm Post subject: chat with support / Livejasmin payment, cheating with currencies? |
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I had pretty funny chat with LiveJasmin payment processor lalib support chat..
Question: Why euro customer pay 50 euro per 50 credit and usa customer pay 50 usd per 50 credit?
Answer: We are euro based company, currency depends from physical location
Question: If member from Ukraine buy credit, will he pay 50 uah per 50 credits?
Answer: No, he pay with uah converted to 50 euro because location is inside europe
Question: why usa customer pay only 50 usd per 50 credits?
Answer: usa is outside europe so currency is usd
Question: if i move to Thailand, what currency and how much is 50 credits for me?
Answer after long pause: As a merchant we have a right to choose what currency we use.
What a bullshit!! first currency is based on physical location, but if they dont like local currency then they have right to choose what currency they use |
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model Not so new
Joined: 04 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:19 pm Post subject: / Livejasmin payment, cheating with currencies? |
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| I agree, they cheat and there's nothing we can do about it. |
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spacedust Not so new
Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:14 am Post subject: / Livejasmin payment, cheating with currencies? |
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What you can do is to ask from member after been private did he pay in euros, and if he did,
you should ask LiveJasmin to pay you 35% from amount of euros member spent with you,
because livejasmin support say they pay performers 35% of the amount member spend. (yes they lie)
I asked about this in livejasmin support chat, and first he told me they pay 35% from what member has been spend,
but when i asked if i buy 50 credits and pay 50 euros,
will performer get 35% of 70 usd (cost for 50 credits) he say,
no, currency for performers is credits, so performer get 35% from 50 credits in this case.
So, currency for member is euro, currency for performer is credits,
and payout currency for performer is 1 credit = 1 usd
This will make: 50 credits = 70 usd spend from member
performer get: 50 credits X 35% = 17,5 usd
actual % to performer: 17,5 from 70usd = 25%
So, that is what you get paid from european customer, 25%
This is how it was when i last checked my girl earnings on livejasmin,
if they havent corrected it yet |
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hotbabee Old hand
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:59 am Post subject: / Livejasmin payment, cheating with currencies? |
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I think it's still the same now (..I'm aware of it. But why don't you go to another site then? I know, the great selection of girls attracts men. |
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dreamvisionmodels Spends too much time online
Joined: 27 Jul 2007
Location: USA
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:10 am Post subject: fair game / Livejasmin payment, cheating with currencies? |
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We wish they changed the policy as well.
Models should receive % from sales , fair share of what customer spends. Euro to $ , there is a big difference, and LJ is getting to keep that difference.. how is that a fair policy...
Just wondering.. |
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