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beautymarked
Newbie


Joined: 17 Oct 2009


Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:11 pm    Post subject: What am I doing wrong? / What am I doing wrong?

Hey all. I've been camming a week now and I love it .. but what's driving me crazy is the ratio of guys who go private with me from free video chat. I mostly get guys wanting to sit in my room all day and chat, tell me how hot I am .. some of them jsut sit there and masturbate to my face and of course I don't know it until they say "Mmm you just made me cum!"

I try to switch things up. I stand up for them so they can see me clothed. I may bounce around a little bit .. they ask me to do all sorts of things before we go pvt so they can know I'm real. I'll do small things like blow a kiss or stand up .. then they say thanks and just leave without every coming into the private room. ARGH!

Then lets not get started on the freebie seekers

What am I doing wrong? Any tips on how I can improve the guys who will go private with me?

I chat with them about 15 min until I realize thats all they wanna do and then I move on to other guys. I'm nice and personable to everyone. Still not good. I REALLY need to make more than $20, $30 a day doing this frown
 
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CaliGuy
Newbie


Joined: 17 Oct 2009


Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: What am I doing wrong? / What am I doing wrong?

I am certain some chat hosts will be more helpful and enlightening on this subject, but maybe it might also be helpful to you to see things from a member's point of view.

First thing to say is the free chat "beggars" and "wankers" are, unfortunately, a necessary evil of this work, especially on sites which allow anonymous guests access to free chats. If you are working on such a site, sadly they will always be present frown Don't let them ruin your mood, because many members can sense this and they might not want to go private because they will feel the private experience will be lessened. Many of the best performers go tit-for-tat with the rude ones or the ones who are looking for a free wank. Have a little fun with some of them smile One thing that is a big turn-on for me and many members is seeing a performer with a sense of humor.

I am happy to see a new performer who feels she doesn't need to "show all" to get a private. I know I might be in the minority here, but I usually will not go to private with a performer who thinks it necessary to do whatever it takes to get a private. And from my experiences, many of the ones who tend to show in free chat spend quite a bit of time there. The guys, guests and members alike, will test the limits and they will figure if they see one thing, why not ask to see something else. Even when some of those performers go to private, they tend to be on the quicker side.

There was one particular performer I saw exclusively for more than a year. Her privates average approximately 45 minutes and she has privates as long as four and five hours on a regular basis. And she rarely shows much in free chat. From what I have witnessed personally and have been told from certain performers, the ones who tend to do the best have a VERY loyal group of members who visit them regularly and exclusively. My advice here would be, provide the ones who do go private with an enjoyable experience that leaves them curious and wanting to come back for more.

And what will keep them coming back is recognizing them and engaging them during free chats on future visits (many performers will keep notes to help out here). Nothing makes a member feel better than when a performer remembers them after a private.

It can take several weeks, evens month before you start seeing things pick up in terms of private time. Things being a bit slow in your first week is not something out of the norm. I know some performers who have been doing this for years, and they still have those days where they find themselves in free chat more than in private. My advice, if you do enjoy the experience, be patient and I'm sure things will pick up soon.

Hope this helps a but and provide another perspective. Wish you the best of luck!
 
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AdorableAudrey
Not so new


Joined: 13 Apr 2007


Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:56 am    Post subject: / What am I doing wrong?

Hey Beauty! You are not doing anything wrong - all cam sites have beggars and guys who just want to sit around and chat without spending. Try to remember that it is your paying customers who are supporting you and that's where you need to focus your energy. You don't have to be mean to guys who sit around for free all day but you certainly don't have to jump to answer their requests and questions as fast as you can either, and a little lighthearted teasing of this kind of behavior can either nudge them toward buying, or earn you the respect of some other chatters in your room who are more likely to buy.

Also since you are new...it usually takes awhile to build up a group of regulars on any site. CaliGuy is right on when he says the best thing you can do is provide an excellent experience for those who DO pay, and don't let the beggars get to you, you truly don't owe them anything. I'm on a 3 strike policy - if someone begs me 3 times to do something naked in freechat, or makes a ton of requests, or tries to cybersex with them they get 3 no's/explanations of the rules and after that, fair game to use my block/ban button, my babysitting days are long behind me! laughing
 
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MyFreeCams
Not so new


Joined: 10 Aug 2005


Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:21 am    Post subject: / What am I doing wrong?

Sitting around and waiting for a private show can be frustrating and that is why at MyFreeCams.com models can receive Tips in public free chat.

Many models earn the majority of their money on MyFreeCams.com through tips in free chat, and some even refuse private shows and group shows because they like to stay in their public room (with hundreds or thousands of fans) and just work for tips.

For more info, check out this page:
http://wiki.myfreecams.com/wiki/Becoming_a_Webcam_Model_at_MyFreeCams
 
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beautymarked
Newbie


Joined: 17 Oct 2009


Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:14 pm    Post subject: / What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for the tips everyone. I'm starting to get the hang of it and come into my own.

I've kinda cut down on camsites I'm on, especially the ones I've HAD to do freechat on and went more with the ones that convert better in addition to starting up my own independent platform.

So far so good on both ends!
 
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model
Not so new


Joined: 04 Jan 2010


Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:57 am    Post subject: / What am I doing wrong?

MyFreeCams wrote:
Sitting around and waiting for a private show can be frustrating and that is why at MyFreeCams.com models can receive Tips in public free chat.

Many models earn the majority of their money on MyFreeCams.com through tips in free chat, and some even refuse private shows and group shows because they like to stay in their public room (with hundreds or thousands of fans) and just work for tips.



They work in public room for tips, tastefully naked or making a hardcore show for tips? 10 Premium members tipping, hundreds or thousands watching for free.
 
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hotbabee
Old hand


Joined: 10 Apr 2008


Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:36 pm    Post subject: / What am I doing wrong?

Beautymarked, you don't do anything wrong. Can you tell on which sites were you then and now?
What guys before me told you is absolutely true. BTW try to pick sites where there is no freechat, or if you are in free chat, don't talk that much to guys in free. I talk to them maximum 2-3 minutes. If they want to go to pvt wiht you, they will anyway. Don't think it will depend on how many things you fulfil in free chat. When they say ok bb i go to pvt wiht you if u show this and that..ignore them. Sometimes they say many things even to nonadults: bb if you get naked in free, do doggy, put dildo in your pussy and ass, and turn your face to the cam and smile, then i come to pvt with you for one hour smile)))))))))
Many guys are just bored and want to talk to someone and they don't intend to go to pvt, and it's fine for them if you dont show anything but talk to them in free. But why waste your time for them? Many hosts say they talk for 10-15-20 min in free, I admire them for their patience.
Yes, guys cum even if they watch you in free so this is why you shouldn't show or do much.
The worst is when they come and say: "bb I just checked your pics, you look hot. I just cummed for you, ty, " Grrrrr ???!!! lol

Shortly, concentrate on your privates , make them happy and good luck smile)
 
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Victoria Jones
Not so new


Joined: 30 Dec 2009

Location: UK

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:23 am    Post subject: / What am I doing wrong?

I've experiemented with having free chat on and off. I earn way more with it off. IMO it's a waste of time. 
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audreybordeaux
Not so new


Joined: 03 Jan 2010


Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:27 pm    Post subject: / What am I doing wrong?

I've been contemplating the same kind of thing recently.. like today I didn't get any privates at all and it was quite disappointing. I feel like its just a balance when you do free chat.. you have to give them a little bit but not too much or they won't feel the need to pay for more! It's just annoying to sit and talk and talk with these guys and you know they're not going to end up taking you into a private.

I've tried not using free chat but I got bored too quickly just sitting there waiting.

Also, I noticed that out of all the privates I've had, only one was from a guy that actually spoke with me in free chat beforehand. All the others just went pvt with me straight from my profile without ever chatting with me first so.. for me, I guess the free chat is just a way to pass the time and get myself out there a little bit more. I'm sure it will just take time.
 
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Hony
Site Admin


Joined: 25 Jan 2003


Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:54 am    Post subject: / What am I doing wrong?

audreybordeaux wrote:
Also, I noticed that out of all the privates I've had, only one was from a guy that actually spoke with me in free chat beforehand. All the others just went pvt with me straight from my profile without ever chatting with me first so...


Great observation!
 
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beautymarked
Newbie


Joined: 17 Oct 2009


Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:56 am    Post subject: / What am I doing wrong?

They can be so pathetic with the things they say to get freebies. I sooo agree, hotbabee lol

"mmm bb plz play with ur pussy 4 me. bend over lemme c ur ass and lick ur lips 4 free then i take u pvt 4 2 hrs i promise k bb?"

OMG, dude, how stupid do you think I am? If you bust a nut to me for free why would you then take me to private for two hours? To talk and get to know one another? Yeah I doubt it.

But I think some just try to get what they can or see how far they can push you. I had a few beg for freebies, then beg to meet in person. One today once he realized he was being ignored he said "Ok you win!" and took me private for 15 minutes.

I agree on ImLive for instance I never got anything from free video chat. Everyone comes straight from the profile. So glad they took away the mandatory free chat for me. PHEW!
 
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