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CrystaLive
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Joined: 19 Aug 2009


Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:40 pm    Post subject: Webcams.com Scamming Models! / Webcams.com Scamming Models!

They went from 40% revshare with models to as little as 0%! eek

If members get complimentary credits then the model/studio gets paid 0% for privates. Yes, ZERO PERCENT!

For new members models/studios get 20.5%.

For members using promotional credits models/studios get 20%.

Normal rate now changed from 40% to 37%.

When are models paid 0%? When 20%? When 37%? No way to know until the show is over!

And they changed all this without telling anyone!

On top of all this they do not even block model's home countries when it says they do when you register!

FUCK WEBCAMS! mad
 
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Annabellz
Not so new


Joined: 31 Aug 2009


Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:38 pm    Post subject: / Webcams.com Scamming Models!

I also work at webcams.

I dont know how they can just change the payout from 40% to 37% with out any notice at all...

And as for the complimentary credits, Ive opened countless tickets asking for clarification and all I get back is the same cut and paste response... "Your % will vary based on the credits used"

lol. My contract states Im suppose to recieve 40% of the gross amount collected. No where did I agree to recieve the lower percentages...

And if you click the 'check earnings' button while in chat you'll see the customer is being charged 2.99 a min regardless of the percentage they pay you!

I had someone come in and spend 4 mins, and they paid me 6 cents a min. SIX CENTS! Im still waiting to hear back on that ticket, but it happens few and far between, so until I can find a new site, I guess Im stuck there
 
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Squirtlady
Old hand


Joined: 31 Jul 2005

Location: USA

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:00 pm    Post subject: Webcams / Webcams.com Scamming Models!

[quote="Annabellz"]I also work at webcams.

I dont know how they can just change the payout from 40% to 37% with out any notice at all...

And as for the complimentary credits, Ive opened countless tickets asking for clarification and all I get back is the same cut and paste response... "Your % will vary based on the credits used"

lol. My contract states Im suppose to recieve 40% of the gross amount collected. No where did I agree to recieve the lower percentages...

And if you click the 'check earnings' button while in chat you'll see the customer is being charged 2.99 a min regardless of the percentage they pay you!

I had someone come in and spend 4 mins, and they paid me 6 cents a min. SIX CENTS! Im still waiting to hear back on that ticket, but it happens few and far between, so until I can find a new site, I guess Im stuck there[/quote]

I also got the same cut and pasted stupid message after I complained that I do not do shows for less than the agreed 1.20 min out of the 2.99 they charge. The original plan was no less than $1.20 US a min....They kept thinking it was ok to pay me as little as half that per minute whenever the f--k they give customer a discount. Alot of these same customers stretch their measley dollars and do 2 min shows with several of the girls. I did have alot of guys left the site about a year ago and they were regulars and good. Upon seeing the site go downhill I got my last check recently and will not go back unless they make some serious changes about rightful payout %.
 
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minniesoporno
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004

Location: Toronto

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:38 pm    Post subject: / Webcams.com Scamming Models!

Webcams.com isn't a scam. they pay what they feel is appropriate. they pay on time and their checks clear. there is other websites out there who do not pay you at all.

they sign up and approve models in a timely manner.
they answer thier emails promptly.
they pay on time and thier checks clear.
 
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Annabellz
Not so new


Joined: 31 Aug 2009


Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:00 am    Post subject: / Webcams.com Scamming Models!

minniesoporno wrote:
webcams.com isn't a scam. they pay what they feel is appropriate. they pay on time and their checks clear. there is other websites out there who do not pay you at all.

they sign up and approve models in a timely manner.
they answer thier emails promptly.
they pay on time and thier checks clear.


omg! they pay what they feel is appropriate??? Youre kidding right? when you sign a contract its for a set amount of % not 'what they feel is appropriate!!

Ive spent some time researching webcams, trying to figure out exactly what they pay and when since they never give you a specific answer and what I found is this.

When a member buys credits any discount they get for buying in bulk is deducted from the models end only. You can buy 30 for 30 dollars, 60 for 50 dollars, 100 for 75$ or 135 for 100$. The more the member buys the more they save.

so buying 135 credits, you save apx 26%. So the commision the model is payed is no longer based on 2.99 a min its 26% less. (2.99-26%=2.21) so you get 37% of 2.21 not 2.99 (82 cents vs 1.11)


If you have the vip account, you recieve 20 credits a month for 9.99. This is a savings of 50% (2.99-50%=1.50 37% of 1.50 = .55 cents per min)

The various and unpredictible rates are when the credits are combined.If a vip spends 2 mins in your room, and one of the minutes used had a value of 1.50 and the other had a value of 2.21 the earnings reflect as total charged 3.71 model amount $1.37 which is .69 cents a min.

So even though the member used 6 credits those 6 credits were only worth 3.71 not 6 dollars.

There is no way to know what kind of credits the member has until after the prvt when you check the earnings.

Yes they answer emails promptly but all you get back is the same cut and pasted response so its like not getting one at all.

As for they pay on time LOL> Anyone at webcams get paid on time this week?? Um no cause thursday was thanksgiving in the usa. Even though theyre not in the us and pay day is friday not thursday not to mention payments have been posted on saturdays many times before, no this time they have elected to hold all payments until monday along with wishing you a happy holiday. Confused
 
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minniesoporno
Old hand


Joined: 28 Oct 2004

Location: Toronto

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:57 am    Post subject: / Webcams.com Scamming Models!

If you don't like webcams then don't work for them there is other sites out there. 
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JohnWebcams
Newbie


Joined: 04 Dec 2009

Location: Panama

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:44 am    Post subject: Webcams.com promo credit explained / Webcams.com Scamming Models!

Hi guys,

I will explain how the Webcams.com credit works.

There are three types of credit:

Purchased credit
Promotional credit
Complimentary credit

Purchased Credit
----------------------

This is the normal credit that users pay for, or in the case of post pay members, this is the amount that is billed to their card. The pay rate for this credit is 37%

Promotional Credit
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This is bonus credit that is given to members if they buy more credits. We do not receive any money for this credit. It is given for bonus purchases. For example, $100 buys you 125 credits, so they get 25 credits for free.

We pay 25% on bonus credit even though we do not collect any money for it. So, models are getting 25% of the credits.

Complimentary Credit
----------------------------

This credit is going to be eliminated soon so do not worry about it. We do not pay anything for complimentary credit, which I agree is an issue.

I think the main thing that no one understands is the promotional credit. Previously, we were actually paying a total amount out to models of 43% because of the promotional credit. Now, the total amount that we pay out to models is around 40%, even though we only pay 37% on purchased credit because we pay out on promotional credit even though we did not collect ANY MONEY on it.

So, if the user spends 50 promotional credits in your room, we pay you $12.50 even though we collected ZERO MONEY from the members!

This actually works in your favor, but since models do not understand it, we are contemplating eliminating it, due to ridiculous comments like we are scammers such as the one I am replying to now.
 
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Squirtlady
Old hand


Joined: 31 Jul 2005

Location: USA

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:31 am    Post subject: Webcams is SCAMMING MODELS / Webcams.com Scamming Models!

Who says our claims of Webcams.com being scammers is ridiculous? Since when the frick is it ok to just pay a camhost whatever you want to pay them? We agreed to $1.20 a min NO LESS, END OF STORY!
We do not care about your discounts. If you want to discount, then take it out of YOUR pocket, not ours.
Yes, checks usually on time. That part is good. The generic ticket responses to camhosts needs to stop. We seek answers, not elementary responses, or those that imply we are ignorant. Not all camhosts are that stupid.
And since when is it ok to pay a camhost just 60c a minute, 90c min, anything but $1.20 min, when the camhost did not sign or would not have signed in the first place for that! ?? ###%*!!
This is why I am not with them anymore. I also am a real female ejaculator, and it takes alot out of the body. I enjoy what I do, but obviously I do it also to make a living. The fact that I was also a webmaster affiliate and see people PEEING on webcams.com , and all sorts of phoney "squirters", shows that noone cares that the customer is also entitled to see a REAL Squirt show as well!
This would of been a great site to stay with if they would of made everything more "honest" and "communicative" with regards to actually resolving these problems. I had alot of nice guys who used to see me on that site. Some have found me elsewhere on their own.
 
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LatinStudio
Not so new


Joined: 22 Dec 2009


Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: / Webcams.com Scamming Models!

Maybe to work in Webcams as an independent Model is ok.

But to work there as a Studio ... think twice about it. Because they do not care about Studios or protect them at all.

After a while they would joust basically steal the Models.

And Im talking out of own Experience.
 
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Annabellz
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Joined: 31 Aug 2009


Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:30 am    Post subject: / Webcams.com Scamming Models!

Well, to be fair, since I did complain about the payment delay on Thanksgiving, Webcams seems to be getting its act together. Both the payments scheduled for friday 12-25(xmas day) and 1-1(new years day) were processed on the thursday before! smile smile 
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Hony
Site Admin


Joined: 25 Jan 2003


Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:22 am    Post subject: / Webcams.com Scamming Models!

Annabellz wrote:
Well, to be fair, since I did complain about the payment delay on Thanksgiving, Webcams seems to be getting its act together. Both the payments scheduled for friday 12-25(xmas day) and 1-1(new years day) were processed on the thursday before! smile smile


I think that is a positive change. One has to remember though that if you were for example being paid by a government or some other such body then if pay day were a public holiday everything would be slid to the next business day. Most of the world doesn't do business on non-business days.

The people who run cam sites and do the accounting are just regular office workers. It's only the hosts who are working freelance and for whom business is a 24x7 affair.

We have to be a bit patient sometimes. big grin
 
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cyberstripper
Newbie


Joined: 10 Oct 2009


Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:18 am    Post subject: I wish / Webcams.com Scamming Models!

More sites would take a % off of the customers purchase, to keep our % higher. Unfortunately, webcams is taking from both customers and models now:( which SUX! If all of these sites took a % from the customers purchase, to keep the girls % higher, it would be great! 
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Annabellz
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Joined: 31 Aug 2009


Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:17 am    Post subject: / Webcams.com Scamming Models!

Im not sure I follow what you mean cyberstripper...

The facts of the matter are webcams recently changed from 40% to 37% without giving ANY notice to the models.

Then they changed the rates you can charge. It use to be 2.99/min. Now they are allowing you to charge 1.99 2.49 2.99 3.49 or 3.99. (there also are some models there who are charging 4.99-they said its because those models are 'porn stars' so they are allowed to charge more (?) )

So in order to keep your pay at the same level it was before the changes took place- you now have to charge more to balance it out.

In regards to the promo credits webcams gives to members-- well JohnWebcams explained it nicely but the point hes missing is models simply do not care. If the site wants to give away credits- let it be on thier end only. Hes making it sound like theyre doing us a favor paying us 25% of something they decided to give away! They decided to give it away-- not us!

If they can not afford or do not wish to pay the models the full 37% on those credits then STOP GIVING THEM OUT!
 
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