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Simon_LOC Newbie
Joined: 21 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:49 am Post subject: New softporn webcam site - comm 70% of gross for first year / New softporn webcam site - comm 70% of gross for first year |
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I am one of the developers of a new webcam site called Sexy Girls Live On Cam:
www.sexygirlsliveoncam.com
The site is still under development but should be going live very soon. It will feature female chat hosts only. It will also be softporn only, just sexy dancing, teasing, stripping, glamour, roleplay, sexy lingerie & outfits, and other soft porn themes. Tasteful full frontal nudity is to be allowed but not required of performers.
All webcams will operate on the group model, whereby any number of members may join the show, for a standardized low price per minute.
To encourage webcam girls to get involved in the early stages, we are offering 70% (of gross) commission for a full year to those chat hosts who contact us early on. Even after the first year we intend to keep the commission rate high, at 50% (of gross).
Chat hosts can read more about our site here:
http://www.sexygirlsliveoncam.com/webcam_girls_wanted.html
You may contact us at the email address given on the page linked to above.
Or you can post any questions to this thread, if that's OK with the forum owners.
We would very much like to hear from some of the chat hosts on this board, as we welcome all questions, suggestions and feedback.
Thanks for your time.
Simon |
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beibi Not so new
Joined: 06 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: New softporn webcam site - comm 70% of gross for first y / New softporn webcam site - comm 70% of gross for first year |
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lovely idea
Im up for it !
when do you plan to launch it ?
i really think it could be very popular! |
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melanieoncam Not so new
Joined: 20 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:25 pm Post subject: / New softporn webcam site - comm 70% of gross for first year |
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20 cents per minute? Honestly, how could anyone afford to spend their time as a host when you are charging viewers 20 cents per minute?
70 percent of 20 cents??!! |
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beibi Not so new
Joined: 06 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: / New softporn webcam site - comm 70% of gross for first year |
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| melanieoncam wrote: | 20 cents per minute? Honestly, how could anyone afford to spend their time as a host when you are charging viewers 20 cents per minute?
70 percent of 20 cents??!! |
as i understand the site is not about privates but about group shows |
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melanieoncam Not so new
Joined: 20 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:59 am Post subject: / New softporn webcam site - comm 70% of gross for first year |
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| beibi wrote: | | melanieoncam wrote: | 20 cents per minute? Honestly, how could anyone afford to spend their time as a host when you are charging viewers 20 cents per minute?
70 percent of 20 cents??!! |
as i understand the site is not about privates but about group shows |
So, let's see, 70 percent of 20 cents, at 14 cents per minute my take, it would take a huge amount of almost constant traffic to even make minimum wage.
Maybe back ten years ago that would be a viable plan, but now I have to wonder since even more established sites are scrounging for traffic. Sorry, hard to believe but I wish the site luck! |
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beibi Not so new
Joined: 06 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:32 am Post subject: / New softporn webcam site - comm 70% of gross for first year |
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| melanieoncam wrote: | | beibi wrote: | | melanieoncam wrote: | 20 cents per minute? Honestly, how could anyone afford to spend their time as a host when you are charging viewers 20 cents per minute?
70 percent of 20 cents??!! |
as i understand the site is not about privates but about group shows |
So, let's see, 70 percent of 20 cents, at 14 cents per minute my take, it would take a huge amount of almost constant traffic to even make minimum wage.
Maybe back ten years ago that would be a viable plan, but now I have to wonder since even more established sites are scrounging for traffic. Sorry, hard to believe but I wish the site luck! |
i imagine their system different, dont know if i am right, Something like many people paying 20 cents are watching show at the same time Not like private show mode |
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Simon_LOC Newbie
Joined: 21 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:25 am Post subject: / New softporn webcam site - comm 70% of gross for first year |
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Thanks very much for the feedback Beibi and Melanie, all very much appreciated.
I'm sorry not to have replied sooner - I'm actually away on holiday so not able to check my email very often. Hope this doesn't give a bad impression - we obviously intend to arrange timely support for both members and performers when the site actually goes live.
Also, I didn't get any replies to this post for quite a few days, and had almost given up hearing from anybody!
Beibi - thanks for your enthusiasm. I'm sorry but I can't give you even an approximate launch date at this stage, as there are too many unknowns. The site needs at least another month of development, and we also need to find enough performers who are at least potentially interested in appearing, in order to make the project viable. We have some existing sources of traffic, and can also buy in some traffic to launch the site, but this would obviously be a waste of time if there aren't any performers online
Melanie - I can understand your scepticism. I appreciate that the project is rather experimental but despite this I am confident it will work and be profitable. However, I like to be honest with people and I freely admit I could be wrong.
Beibi is correct in that the site is to be based on group shows, so you only need 5+ members to be watching your show to be getting 70 percent of $1+ per min.
Here's how we explain it on the site...
Each viewer will only be paying a standardized 20c per minute, but you only need a few viewers to be making nearly as much, or even much more, than you would through an individual private show.
We believe that you are much more likely to get 10 members to pay 20c per minute each to see your show than one member to pay $2 per minute. And there is a good likelihood of staying at this income level for much longer than with an individual show, with new paying viewers joining your show all the time to replace those leaving
If you have any further questions, comments, or suggestions, I'd love to hear from you, either here or by emailing the site. I promise to reply to all queries, but unfortunately I can't promise to reply in a timely fashion as I'm still on holiday!
Thank you again for your time.
Simon |
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Hony Site Admin
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject: / New softporn webcam site - comm 70% of gross for first year |
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| Simon_LOC wrote: | However, I like to be honest with people and I freely admit I could be wrong.
Beibi is correct in that the site is to be based on group shows, so you only need 5+ members to be watching your show to be getting 70 percent of $1+ per min.
Here's how we explain it on the site...
Each viewer will only be paying a standardized 20c per minute, but you only need a few viewers to be making nearly as much, or even much more, than you would through an individual private show.
We believe that you are much more likely to get 10 members to pay 20c per minute each to see your show than one member to pay $2 per minute. And there is a good likelihood of staying at this income level for much longer than with an individual show, with new paying viewers joining your show all the time to replace those leaving
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Interesting concept and I'll be interested to see how it pans out. I hope you recognise that this is quite different from the way most hosts are making money -- it's one-on-one and active interaction with a viewer who is really paying for the *attention* of the host, not the nudity or sex really -- consider the successful sites and hosts which have no nudity or sex at all!
That kind of interaction with a large group is not possible I think, whether you are thinking of intimate chatting and discussion, or actual sex shows, a host gets exhausted after a while.
Will "10 members to pay 20c per minute each to see your show"? Perhaps, it's as cheap as some steaming porn videos. But I think that's basically what it becomes. So many hosts will see this as devaluing the service they provide.
Still; it's something new and there may well be a market for it so I wish you well!
Let me know in advance before you are launching and I'll make a front page news item about it for that day.
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Simon_LOC Newbie
Joined: 21 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:51 am Post subject: / New softporn webcam site - comm 70% of gross for first year |
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Thanks for the feedback, Hony. I value all feedback, but it's particularly interesting to hear your opinion, as you seem to be a real webcam expert.
Sorry my replies are still slow in coming. I'm not back full time until 24th September, but from then I plan to dedicate my time almost exclusively to Sexy Girls Live On Cam.
I know my site model is quite different to the norm, and so is a bit untested, but I want to do something different and I really believe this can work.
The site is to be softporn only so no live sex shows as such, just teasing, stripping, sexy outfits, etc. I know from my experience with other sites I have promoted that softporn is a very popular niche. I take your point that much of the intimacy is lost with group performances, but it is still much more exciting to know that the action is live, unlike with steaming videos. And there can still be some interaction with the performer. Also, unlike a steaming video site, there is effectively an inexhaustable supply of material available, with different shows every day.
> Let me know in advance before you are launching and I'll make a front page news item about it for that day.
Thank you very much, that really is very kind of you. I'll be sure to let you (and Beibi) know just as soon as I have a definite launch date.
I shall certainly be linking to the Adult Webcam FAQ before my site goes live, just as soon as I get my links page up.
Simon |
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vue Not so new
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:53 am Post subject: / New softporn webcam site - comm 70% of gross for first year |
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Nice, i would like a business like that, leads away from the money for sex industry, slightly.
Maybe there's many people on adult cam sites not looking for sex
But once they see a nice looking ladie in sexy lingerie
And you won't be offering those extras
That's when visitors start looking else where
Just my opinion. |
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Simon_LOC Newbie
Joined: 21 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:32 pm Post subject: / New softporn webcam site - comm 70% of gross for first year |
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Thanks for posting, "vue".
I'm sure you are right that some visitors, certainly those looking for stronger material, will find that Sexy Girls Live On Cam doesn't give them what they want, and so move on to look elsewhere.
But I do know from personal experience, in successfully promoting a number of glamour and soft porn only sites, that soft porn is a very popular niche. A lot of guys actually prefer it, either all the time or when they are in the mood for something a bit more subtle. |
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vue Not so new
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:35 pm Post subject: / New softporn webcam site - comm 70% of gross for first year |
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I can't disagree with that,
You know i've been quite attracted to asians myself
You'll allways find 100's for sweet looking girls on over crowded cam sites
Sometimes i have thought about a simular neich to yours
It's a crue world and we all, well all adult webmasters would gladly exploit these girls if they could.
They are exploited big time, they're allready poor when they join the site and most of them don't even have their own pcs, so they end up working for someone with a few pcs around their home for a fraction of what they should be paid.
So in a sence, it would be cool if you could get these type of ladies to your site,
Help them make some money for their real beauty, fashion, style, glamour etc.
I think also if you had one room or channel for a live music broadcast that is fed into each girls room.
Then you'' attract a whole different network of djs and dancers!
BTW, I have an idea for a cam community but the viewers have to be using quicktime player
So i would need live video streams, 1 viewer per stream, rtsp urls
I want to give out the streaming accounts to employees, and have them setup with something like wirecast or simular.
Then i will get the rtsp url for their live stream and goto work
Any hope? |
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