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Lorrie Old hand
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| Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:38 am Post subject: Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? / Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? |
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Okay, let's get real here:
Are there ANY chat hosts who has made a lot of money--let's say at least $50,000.00 a year, from owning their own website only? Not working at any other website.
I think the only hosts making a lot of money as an independent are hosts who are porn stars and now having their own sites. It seems to me, you have to be already established and known in the adult industry to REALLY have a successful adult website. |
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leiaswift Newbie
Joined: 25 May 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:29 pm Post subject: / Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? |
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Honestly the girls I know who make "serious money" from having their own site do a LOT of live promotions using network sites + serious in affiliate game + time to build a following + consistent hard work. So IMO... NO you can't make that kind of money without advertising on other sites of some sort. (talking about girls w/o previous career as porn star OR w/o a HUGE company backing them).
IMO a lot of sites want to promise you a zillion dollars when while YES its possible... this is 2009 not 2005... money doesn't just fall off the tree. Economy has effected everyone's spending habits period.
good luck,
Leia Swift |
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beibi Not so new
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| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject: / Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? |
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| leiaswift wrote: | Honestly the girls I know who make "serious money" from having their own site do a LOT of live promotions using network sites + serious in affiliate game + time to build a following + consistent hard work. So IMO... NO you can't make that kind of money without advertising on other sites of some sort. (talking about girls w/o previous career as porn star OR w/o a HUGE company backing them).
IMO a lot of sites want to promise you a zillion dollars when while YES its possible... this is 2009 not 2005... money doesn't just fall off the tree. Economy has effected everyone's spending habits period.
good luck,
Leia Swift |
hey Leia nice to see you here as well
i just wanted to add that it is sooo pity it is year 2009 and not the 2005 right? ;()
rude.com/TeasenPlease |
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melanieoncam Spends too much time online
Joined: 20 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:02 am Post subject: / Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? |
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| beibi wrote: | hey Leia nice to see you here as well
i just wanted to add that it is sooo pity it is year 2009 and not the 2005 right? ;()
rude.com/TeasenPlease |
Yeah, no kidding! It was such fast easy money back then. I used to only have to work a few hours a day. Wish I had worked more then and saved more cash! |
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MyFreeCams Not so new
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:35 am Post subject: Re: Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? / Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? |
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| Lorrie wrote: | Okay, let's get real here:
Are there ANY chat hosts who has made a lot of money--let's say at least $50,000.00 a year, from owning their own website only? Not working at any other website.
I think the only hosts making a lot of money as an independent are hosts who are porn stars and now having their own sites. It seems to me, you have to be already established and known in the adult industry to REALLY have a successful adult website. |
If you are chat host on MyFreeCams.com then YES, this year we will have well over 100 girls that will have earned $100,000 or more, just from our site.
We have had several models that have got so famous from myfreecams that they have openered their own solo sites of fan clubs. Here is an example:
http://www.clubleia.com/
Read this page to learn what makes MyFreeCams different:
http://www.myfreecams.com/models/info.php
Thanks |
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beibi Not so new
Joined: 06 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject: / Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? |
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| melanieoncam wrote: | | beibi wrote: | hey Leia nice to see you here as well
i just wanted to add that it is sooo pity it is year 2009 and not the 2005 right? ;()
rude.com/TeasenPlease |
Yeah, no kidding! It was such fast easy money back then. I used to only have to work a few hours a day. Wish I had worked more then and saved more cash! |
totally agree with you I feel so sad i wasnt in business those days errr |
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vue Not so new
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:56 pm Post subject: / Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? |
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I remember around 1997 i was just into my first year on the net
I use to look at cam girls a lot back then, pornication.com for example
That site use to be pritty cool, had some unique girls, Rachle, Alysia, Monika_Luv etc, damn!
But now it's just another cam site, i think they should have kept their design like it use to be, dark, irc looking design with lots of cams, most of the girls rooms had the fancy red/pink curtins it was like a policy.
But anyway,
I was playing an online game about 3 years ago, when i visiited this scene in the game
An escort island/agency with lots of add boards on the walls, lots of girls advertsing their
ym, msn, eyeball cam shows in virtual reality, a lot of these online worlds have an economy of their own.
but one face stood out straigh away
One of the models from pornication back in 1997/98!
She said she was makig more money as an independant performer than she ever made on pornication.
I didn't doubt her, she is a classy looking ladie. |
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hotbabee Old hand
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:39 am Post subject: / Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? |
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| You don't have to be independent host in order to make much money at all! Actually 50 K is not really a big money. Ok, I don't make that because I'm a nonadult host, but I know a girl who does adult, and she makes 10.000-15.000 USD per month.(that's roughly 120-180 K per year) She has never been a porn star, never advertized herself, no affiliate, nothing. She just looks great and guys jump in her vid at a high price per min.. I know she's making this money, because I handled her earnings in the past. |
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missangie Not so new
Joined: 08 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:21 am Post subject: independent / Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? |
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Yes its possible
I dont have a website but i advertise a lot on different sites
i give them a 5 sec preview that im real and we do the show
i make around 100/150 eurp a day with shows on my msn or yahoo
greetz |
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Lorrie Old hand
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:09 am Post subject: / Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? |
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| hotbabee wrote: | | You don't have to be independent host in order to make much money at all! Actually 50 K is not really a big money. Ok, I don't make that because I'm a nonadult host, but I know a girl who does adult, and she makes 10.000-15.000 USD per month.(that's roughly 120-180 K per year) She has never been a porn star, never advertized herself, no affiliate, nothing. She just looks great and guys jump in her vid at a high price per min.. I know she's making this money, because I handled her earnings in the past. |
Well, I'm being realistic as far as the adult cam business goes. 50 K is quite a lot for webcammers--even adult. Most don't make that much.
I'm not talking about the top elitist, very rare people who make a 6 figure income. I said it before, and I'll say it again: If many women made THAT much, they would invest wisely early and retire early to travel the world having fun 24/7 and I never heard any women doing that from this business yet! I'm talking about most people making good money as independent. BTW, you can live pretty easily in NYC at 50 K and NYC is one of the most expensive places in the world to live. I personally know since I lived there for 2 1/2 years in the past. |
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spider Old hand
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:13 am Post subject: / Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? |
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| hotbabee wrote: | | You don't have to be independent host in order to make much money at all! Actually 50 K is not really a big money. Ok, I don't make that because I'm a nonadult host, but I know a girl who does adult, and she makes 10.000-15.000 USD per month.(that's roughly 120-180 K per year) She has never been a porn star, never advertized herself, no affiliate, nothing. She just looks great and guys jump in her vid at a high price per min.. I know she's making this money, because I handled her earnings in the past. |
Hi hotbabe
Are u at liberty to tell us where these high earners are, I mean on what site, such as the girl you speak of?
Have not spoken to anyone who rakes in big bucks, although that is not to say it does not exist...I find most people are not willing to share their success or a site where the percentage is greater than 30%...and one is treated like a human, not some underground slave. |
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MyFreeCams Not so new
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:19 am Post subject: / Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? |
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| spider wrote: | | hotbabee wrote: | | You don't have to be independent host in order to make much money at all! Actually 50 K is not really a big money. Ok, I don't make that because I'm a nonadult host, but I know a girl who does adult, and she makes 10.000-15.000 USD per month.(that's roughly 120-180 K per year) She has never been a porn star, never advertized herself, no affiliate, nothing. She just looks great and guys jump in her vid at a high price per min.. I know she's making this money, because I handled her earnings in the past. |
Hi hotbabe
Are u at liberty to tell us where these high earners are, I mean on what site, such as the girl you speak of?
Have not spoken to anyone who rakes in big bucks, although that is not to say it does not exist...I find most people are not willing to share their success or a site where the percentage is greater than 30%...and one is treated like a human, not some underground slave. |
The highest paid chat hosts are at MyFreeCams.com. That is guaranteed.
MyFreeCams.com pays over 60% to its models, and has been paying this much since day one.
As you said, many models think of MFC as their little secret, but fortunately we can share it with everyone.
More info here:
http://wiki.myfreecams.com/wiki/Becoming_a_Webcam_Model_at_MyFreeCams |
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model Not so new
Joined: 04 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? / Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? |
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| MyFreeCams wrote: | | Lorrie wrote: | Okay, let's get real here:
Are there ANY chat hosts who has made a lot of money--let's say at least $50,000.00 a year, from owning their own website only? Not working at any other website.
I think the only hosts making a lot of money as an independent are hosts who are porn stars and now having their own sites. It seems to me, you have to be already established and known in the adult industry to REALLY have a successful adult website. |
If you are chat host on MyFreeCams.com then YES, this year we will have well over 100 girls that will have earned $100,000 or more, just from our site.
We have had several models that have got so famous from myfreecams that they have openered their own solo sites of fan clubs. Here is an example:
http://www.clubleia.com/
Thanks |
Let's tell everybody how it is, not a few models from MyFreeCams opened their own solo sites of fan clubs, but a model PrincessLeia who also runs a studio on MyFreeCams started www.clubleia.com with her studio models and especially with MyFreeCams's admin help.
Do models still fall for the trick, our own funclub? |
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hotbabee Old hand
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:24 pm Post subject: / Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? |
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Hello guys,
I was away for months, and I just see some comments or questions from me. Sorry for the delay , I answer now.
@Spider:
Of course I can tell you where this girl is working, but some sites might be what you don't like because of how they deal with hosts:
Camspot
LiveJasmin
CamContacts
Webcams ......these 4 sites bring the most money for her, not necessarily in this order
ImLive
Livepimpin
NeedLive.Com
Camconomy ...these are the so-so sites. Needlive is actually dead it's just there because the computer is strong enough to run these sites.
She can run so many sites at the same time because there is someone who chats for her (an operator) and all she has to do is doing the show and fake-typing on her keyboard when she hears her op typing )
If she spoke English, she could probably make yearly 100K only from the first 4 sites and dealing with 4 sites is not that difficult.
@Lorrie
There might be several reasons why you didn't hear about "retired" hosts living from their savings and traveling around the world. I worked with many models and I read many chathost forum and what I see is that majority of the girls are not really educated, don't think about the future, they just want 600 usd sunglasses, expensive cars, lingeries, travels,makeup etc and they spend their money as if there wasn't tomorrow. Even most people in the normal world can't manage their investment well, so what do you expect from this type of girls?? There are successful hosts who did well, invested well, but they didn't tell you )) It's not common, but there, are trust me
Have a nice day!! |
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LaurieLegs Newbie
Joined: 29 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:51 am Post subject: / Do Independent Chat Hosts REALLY Make Serious Money?? |
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It seems a lot of responses in this thread didn't even understand the original question. It's not about being a chathost working through myfreecams or CamContacts or any of the other sites mentioned!
An independent chat host would get their own customers and their own traffic and process credit cards themselves, not work through another site.
I've tried it and I find that when dealing with chargebacks, payment processors it really ends up being about the same as what I make working through one of the major cam sites and with a LOT more headaches.
I'm still keeping my site up at least for now because I have a few favorite customers I still like to perform for, however unless you have a HUGE following it's not going to be a full time gig for you. Also I think it's completely unethical to do what some do, stealing traffic from sites where they work and using their own processors. It'll eventually catch up with you! Your customers should only be those customers you have gotten for yourself, not stolen from someone else's hard work and investment. |
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