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Squirtlady Old hand
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:15 am Post subject: Honys Frontpage About Cams.Com / Honys Frontpage About Cams.Com |
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RE: Hony's frontpage article about cams.com
Honys words "Just noticed this -- the parent company of Cams.com has filed for IPO! That isn't as good as it sounds though as they are doing it to try to raise cash to cover more than $400 million debts they have! I don't know much about finance but that doesn't sound good to me."
You all know that cams.com aka Streamray has a zillion other names. Legendary Lars originally had it and had people buying every other domain or slowsite out there. Then once it went to other people, it was going further downhill. One of the first main issues was that whatever girl was in the profile pictures was not who you would see in livechat !
I am thinking mismanagement. While some features have gotten better, most the models cannot represent theirselves correctly. Most camhosts cannot choose what pictures can be viewed or not viewed. The delete buttons do not work for everyone. So you have to email better pictures if you want better pictures. However, the old crummy random pictures cannot be deleted!
Most the clientele got to be minute-men, so I left. One time they falsely accused me of fisting when it was simply a toy zoomed in extra close. How anyone could think that was a fist is beyond me! I even viewed what they were referring to in their so-called "confirmation" and it does not look like a fist. Another time I was falsely accused of not getting undressed when my undress time is under a minute! If only minute men, what the f? Wonder if this also is a studio "shill" posing as disgruntled minute man. Ridiculous. Some go out immediately without even seeing me! There is excessive price wars and studios downing the ratings of other camhosts to get their girls on the front page! Bullshit ! Before all this crap happened I stayed a 9.9 rating, charged more, % was more, and also had better clients. They have an apparent new help department. Do not know where located now or what is going on. I am thinking that huge proceeds come from Adultfriendfinder.com and alt.com, but that with all the free sites and excessive charges for aff, that the customer base is leaving left and right.
Before getting into camming, I was with a huge corporation that was more lucrative than streamray and they folded due to gross mismanagement. Noone would listen to anyone who knew how to fix the company! Hope this does not happen to Streamray ! |
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minniesoporno Old hand
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:24 pm Post subject: / Honys Frontpage About Cams.Com |
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I am not sure where your getting info from about Streamray aka cams.com I have been with streamy for over 6 years. I started off with them when I was being paid 45% I have made top performer when they offerd it 4 times.
and I haven't had any issues with cams of ratings or being moved around. I have met the staff of Streamate at many conventions. and they are doing well for themswelves. Right now there isnt any company out there who isn't in debt especially now more then ever. There is penthouse and girls gone wild asking for the bailout money from the usa government.
The webcam business principles still stand the same, there is always going to be studios who will take advantage and try and cheat the business, but I have always known as long as the sites pay me on time and their checks clear I have no isues with what they do behind the scenes as long as I am getting traffic into my room.
Even if i I get 1000s minute men in my room that still adds up to money and a pay check. There is ways of avoiding minute but that is all in your sales techniques. |
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smirke Friend of the forum
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:21 am Post subject: cams/penthouse / Honys Frontpage About Cams.Com |
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| wasn't streamray bought by penthouse last year sometime? |
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minniesoporno Old hand
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:08 am Post subject: Re: cams/penthouse / Honys Frontpage About Cams.Com |
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| smirke wrote: | | wasn't streamray bought by penthouse last year sometime? |
Streamray is partners with penthouse, and adultfriendfinder. I am sure they will find other rescourses to get out of their situation. They have been in business since the 90s |
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Hony Site Admin
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject: / Honys Frontpage About Cams.Com |
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Actually streamray merged with AFF -- but in such a way that AFF was in control. Then AFF bought penthouse, and renamed themselves to penthouse. It is a complex deal but you can see some of what is going on by reading the IPO details.
Lars no longer seems to be in the driving seat. |
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spider Old hand
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| Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject: / Honys Frontpage About Cams.Com |
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| Hony wrote: | Actually streamray merged with AFF -- but in such a way that AFF was in control. Then AFF bought penthouse, and renamed themselves to penthouse. It is a complex deal but you can see some of what is going on by reading the IPO details.
Lars no longer seems to be in the driving seat. |
who is Streamate, or should i ask which other sites do they have? |
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spider Old hand
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| Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Honys Frontpage About Cams.Com / Honys Frontpage About Cams.Com |
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| Squirtlady wrote: | RE: Hony's frontpage article about cams.com
Honys words "Just noticed this -- the parent company of Cams.com has filed for IPO! That isn't as good as it sounds though as they are doing it to try to raise cash to cover more than $400 million debts they have! I don't know much about finance but that doesn't sound good to me."
You all know that cams.com aka Streamray has a zillion other names. Legendary Lars originally had it and had people buying every other domain or slowsite out there. Then once it went to other people, it was going further downhill. One of the first main issues was that whatever girl was in the profile pictures was not who you would see in livechat !
I am thinking mismanagement. While some features have gotten better, most the models cannot represent theirselves correctly. Most camhosts cannot choose what pictures can be viewed or not viewed. The delete buttons do not work for everyone. So you have to email better pictures if you want better pictures. However, the old crummy random pictures cannot be deleted!
Most the clientele got to be minute-men, so I left. One time they falsely accused me of fisting when it was simply a toy zoomed in extra close. How anyone could think that was a fist is beyond me! I even viewed what they were referring to in their so-called "confirmation" and it does not look like a fist. Another time I was falsely accused of not getting undressed when my undress time is under a minute! If only minute men, what the f? Wonder if this also is a studio "shill" posing as disgruntled minute man. Ridiculous. Some go out immediately without even seeing me! There is excessive price wars and studios downing the ratings of other camhosts to get their girls on the front page! Bullshit ! Before all this crap happened I stayed a 9.9 rating, charged more, % was more, and also had better clients. They have an apparent new help department. Do not know where located now or what is going on. I am thinking that huge proceeds come from Adultfriendfinder.com and alt.com, but that with all the free sites and excessive charges for aff, that the customer base is leaving left and right.
Before getting into camming, I was with a huge corporation that was more lucrative than streamray and they folded due to gross mismanagement. Noone would listen to anyone who knew how to fix the company! Hope this does not happen to Streamray ! |
squirtlady i hear you loud and clear.....most not all of these people running these business is a huge pimpopoly.....in who they hire to manage, etc etc..
most of the studios are the dense ones, and work on quantity....most of them could make 2 times as much if they knew how to train their models....most are trained to think the big bad american has $$ shake your stuff, wriggle like the worm tease them show all you got in free chat.....of course the big bad rich american is wanking his willie teased to the ultimate, and comes in to private for the final explosion.....there is your one minute and your 30 cents......the model worked harder and longer to get him up in free chat than she did in private! call it slave labor.....yes, studio pimps do ask the sites to place their cattle on the front page...you as an independent will be drowned out...because the typical cam site wants volume, they want slave labor, a typical girl home alone is extinct.
is streamray and sstreamate the same?
take a look at sstreamate now....new encoder software out, and half of american viewers are still on dial up...lol...sure you can switch back and forth from dial up, to high speed, to HD to encoder......but here is the kicker........you will get lots of looky looos...why?... because they can now wank off to you wriggling in free on a BIG screen....you are encouraged now to have your sound on and speak to them, keep it going so they can record you and sell it...you get $000 big fat zero.
plus shows are recorded and they sell your videos and it will now be in huge screen....its not done for the models benefit, but for the company once again..imo |
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