VOYEUR CAMS- Food for Thought

[WEBS]

Dear models,

Did you know that when you are performing for a guest or many guests at one time cam sites offer additional guests who happen to notice you are online in a private chat have the possiblity to view your performance in VOYEUR mode? This cost is approximately a dollar less than what you are charging per minute and most guests paying for the VOYEUR mode option are quite satisfied paying less to see a full sex show. Meanwhile girls... keep this in mind you are not making a cent of those profits, these profits are going directly to the website you work for.

Any feelings on this topic will be greatly welcome. Feel free to express yourself.

[minniesoporno]

that is not true for all websites.

voyeur mode also happens in nude chat where ever member pays the same amount. such as cams.com, Streamate, ImLive,

they might not call it voyeur mode but they do you pay you more for that option.

[WEBS]

In fiction you may think sites do not exploit your performance and earnings. But in fact they do, little do you know occurs behind the closed wall of sexcam sites. And, instead of posting replies that have no subtance, offer us some facts instead of links to the most notoriuos site regarding the expoitment of models.

Think again

[Horny Joe]

And where is your substance, WEBS? Do you know for a fact that models don't get paid for voyeur mode or is it just a supposition?

[WEBS]

IT'S FACT and By the tone of your post you must not be a model. Seeking to evade important topics like voyeur cams and exploitment of earnings.

Unfortunately your type of post is so obviously debative, and so poorly relevant to any of the interest chat models should be aware of and concerned with in this business. So I suggest that if you are not a model you refrain from intrusion into legitimate causes like the ones I have posted.

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[WEBS]

Just saw your site. No wonder you are trying to lure people you ain't got no soul for a black girl bb. It's so obvious..ewww

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[Squirtlady]

Hony posted this before and it says what is REALLY happening. Hate to inform you but I have had camshows viewed FREE and people would tell me that!!! I went back to ifcam with its sorry software to avoid the free voyeur much as possible. It still got hacked occasionally. FUCK iFriends....
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P.S. Please don't "dis" each other. All of you make good points about the biz.

[smirke]

poor webs, so confused and angry
minnie, you are a wonderul wealth of information, your responses have helped me manyt times,
it is true that some sites sell videos of shows and the girls do not know this and they are exploited, webcams is one, streamte is another, naked.com is another, at the same time other sites offer voyuer and DO PAY the models, cams.com does this and so does peekshows, and many others, cams.com also makes customers pay when they watch a video of a past show for the model and the model earns money from this too, but if you lookk at tubemate, you will see videos of models from Streamate, these girls have no idea that they were filmed nor that streamate is using their live naked shows,

[minniesoporno]

Plus also you have to remember when you signed the model release forms you agreed that the site i.e Streamate owns your image and has the right to do whatever they want for it. becuase they are giving you the oppurtunity to broadcast using thier software and, billing system and pay you based on your agreement with them.

so yes you might feel like your being ripped off but if you read back your model release forms your actually are agreeing to what they are doing with your image.

[WEBS]

Dear Models,

In reference to smirke's posting supporting my topic on the exploitation of models by reporting many issues relevant to us I would like to state the following:

Selling voyeur cams viewing and video's without making the model aware she is being filmed and/or providing the model with a share of those profits, that is EXPLOITMENT.

As an important topic seeking legitimate support by the model community I would suggest taking the time to not only read through the forum, but also educate yourself''s on the laws supporting model release agreements and also re-reading the model agreement carefully to understand it's meaning. FOR EXAMPLE:


If you carefully read the model's agreement for Streamate, webcams, and all those other ones mentioned in several posts you will read the following:

"I agree to give [AGENCY] a perpetual license to use any content that[u] I produce and submit to [AGENCY[/u]] and its computer systems in the marketing, advertising, promotions or sales of any products or services of [AGENCY], affiliates or agents on the Internet. "

In the above paragraph you will note that you are agreeing to the rights the Agency has
over your images and videos. But you are also fully entitled to intelligently and knowingly be aware of any submissions made; meaning you agree to release those images as quoted in the contract, " that I produce and that I submit."

Insomuch, the entire business of filming models without their knowledge and creating videos that are sold for a profit, where the model takes none of those profits is a complete violation of the model agreement. In addition it is a evasive and wrongful business practice to not only do that but also permit voyeur mode cams while the model is performing and not provide a share of those profits either. Not making the models aware of the formentioned issues is EXPLOITMENT and legally wrongful.

-Please note that the evasive and illegitimate means agencies take to exploit and profit as much as possible of all models legally cancels the agreement.

First because the model must be intelligently and knowingly aware she/he is being recorded or observed and second that any content issued must be submitted to agency by the model.

I hope this clarifies any confusion many models seem to have about the agencies model agreement.

Be aware.