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spacedust Newbie
Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:06 am Post subject: camgirls attitude / camgirls attitude |
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Wanted to share my thougths about camgirls different attitudes and how it does affect on my spending habbits as a customer..
First i need to say, that i really respect girls on camsites, most of them are good girls just doing a job for living
But i really have been noticing, that high minute price usually dont garantee good quality show, it seems to be vice versa, for some reason.. Really!! most girls who has minute price 2,99$ or more, have really bad attitude for customers, they seem to think that they are some kind of queens, and customers are only lowlife loosers who are there only for giving money to girls.. these girls really dont respect customers at all.. if you enter freechat room as a customer and try to talk, first sentence these girls say is "come to private or get out" they dont bother even to answer the simple questions about what they are willing to do in private. And on their profile they have note for every damn willing you can imagine, but then if you go to private with them, first 5 minutes they are pretending that they dont understand what customer want them to do, and then finaly when they understand, they start to look for toys and use time for that, and then.. they start to fake, using hand to cover for what they are doing, they twist dildo under their hand and pretends that it is inside them, and if customer dare to say that she is faking, first she again pretend that she dont understand english, and then finaly she start to argue and say that she cant do that, she is not willing for that (even she say on her profile that she is willing) then she say that customer is a jerk for asking something like that!! lol i really hate that kind of attitude!! and really.. most high price girls are like this (im not born yesterday, so i have lots of experience on this matter, been customer on multiple sites 3 years)
And then these low minute price girls.. who has price 1,99$ or less.. they are usually like from other planet, they talk in freechat, they laugh and have fun with customers there, they dont mind to answer to polite questions, they are ready to tell what they will do in private shows.. and usually they also do what they promise to do, and they dont try to spend time for seeking toys or pretending not to understand.. they seem to respect customers.. and i respect these girls alot.. they do all they can to make customer happy, they really work for the money and thats why they earns my respect, and usually i always let them earn good, i dont leave after 10 minutes in private, i stay and let them earn until i reach my spending limit, usually about 50$ per show.
i have had show with girls who has price at 0,99$ on CamContacts, and i they have always gave me thousand times better show than girls with 3,99$ minute price.
And, these girls also earns better from me.. because i always use this about 50$ per show, no matter what minute price is, but because of all bad experiences with high price girls, i stopped taking privates with these girls anymore, not because of price, but because of attitude and quality of show.. i trust only low minute price girls anymore, girls with high price can say bye bye to my moneys, they are not worth of spending
Sorry for long story LOL |
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hotbabee Not so new
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: / camgirls attitude |
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Hey, I'm sorry to hear your experience. Those expensive girls have probably that attitude because they can do it. I mean someone will still pay for them. Most men want what they can't get, and like to be treated that way. I work in a studio and we have very different models with different attitude and prices. Interestingly those who are expensive and treat their members like shit , in the beginning they get bad rating and viewers jump out from vid, but they come back later. They just can't bear that they didn't get prompty what they wanted. We also have cheaper very nice girls, and then viewers treat them bad. This happens mostly but of course not always. There are exceptions like u, who appreciate the kind warm welcome and attention, but they are very very few. I chat for models, and they all have different image that they chose, or the market form them in a certain way. Some are like queens , don't do anything, just smiles and only willing to get nude when they think the viewer deserves that. They make 500 USD a day...Others are so sweet and kind, but they only get" show ass" in freechat and when finally someone comes to private they start with "anal!!" without even saying hi! Again, I'm sorry for what you experience but market rules.. everybody behaves somehow for reasons. I'm also on CamContacts, and I read forums, when men are complaining about hosts who don't pay attention to them., These members write down that they keep going back but the host still neglects them. Hmm many ask then why the hell he goes back once he had a bad experience the first time?? maybe men take it a defeat to quit a vid if they don't get what they want. They keep going back and stil unsatisfied but the host makes a lot of money!
I'm sorry too if I wrote too much, but this issue that you brought up is what I'm always thinking about. ) Maybe I should have chosen psychology in uni instead of engineering LOL |
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Lorrie Old hand
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Portland, Oregon USA
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:28 am Post subject: / camgirls attitude |
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| hotbabee wrote: | We also have cheaper very nice girls, and then viewers treat them bad. This happens mostly but of course not always. There are exceptions like u, who appreciate the kind warm welcome and attention, but they are very very few. I chat for models, and they all have different image that they chose, or the market form them in a certain way. Some are like queens , don't do anything, just smiles and only willing to get nude when they think the viewer deserves that. They make 500 USD a day...Others are so sweet and kind, but they only get" show ass" in freechat and when finally someone comes to private they start with "anal!!" without even saying hi!
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My price is lower too and I'd say about 98% of my all guests who come in my room are kind and respectful of me.
It's about how you carry yourself. If you show that you are an intelligent person and demand respect (you don't even have to SAY that; people who ARE smart and deserve respect will autoomatically be respected most of the time--it's just psychological human nature).
It really amazes me how many hosts say they get really rude customers when they have a low price. That's too bad...but that's certainly not with me! I love my guests! |
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spacedust Newbie
Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: / camgirls attitude |
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| Lorrie wrote: |
It really amazes me how many hosts say they get really rude customers when they have a low price. That's too bad... |
Or maybe they just say this as an excuse for a high price
Other explanation could be, that they just get much more customers with low price, so then there will be more rude customers also... i mean that if 50% of customers are rude, then keeping high price you get 1 nice customer and only 1 rude customer.. but with low price you get 10 rude customers and 10 nice customers, but ofcourse you notice only this high amount of these rude customers, because u dont pay attention to these invisible nice customers who dont bother you
And btw hotbabee... if host dont like Anal... then she should not have Anal mentioned on her willingnes in profile.. u know it is called cheating and then u deserve all the rudnes you get And with high price, you cant expect customer to sit calm and wait 10 minutes in private to find out does he see anal or not.. so dont complain if customer ask anal right when he gets in private!! (usually i ask it before going in private) I admit that sometime i have been bit rude for girl who say Anal in profile, but then in private she starts to complain that she cant take a dildo in ass because she dont like it... hell i dont enjoy my job either, but if i promise to work for money, then i will also keep my promise
Lorrie is right, that who deserve respect, usually also get respect from most customers
-- damfin -- member in cams.com, LiveJasmin, streammate, ImLive, CamContacts, Neon cams, wellcams (R.I.P), extasycams, peekshows, webcams.. |
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tben Not so new
Joined: 03 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: Just remember / camgirls attitude |
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In the end it's all about the money for both ends! Girl wants to make some guests want to save some.
Some will do what they have to to please you and keep you others will do what
you want. For a while, then figure if you keep comknig back, they own you and can just do what they choose. Some will be professional realize they are being paid by you and do what you want each and every time. Find these girls and get the most from your hard earned dollar. As for the others and misrepresentation, complain to the site and have them dealt with.
You may want to check out cam girl notes and see the section in regards to model tips while on-line. |
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Lorrie Old hand
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Portland, Oregon USA
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: Re: camgirls attitude / camgirls attitude |
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| spacedust wrote: | they start to look for toys and use time for that, and then.. they start to fake, using hand to cover for what they are doing, they twist dildo under their hand and pretends that it is inside them, and if customer dare to say that she is faking, first she again pretend that she dont understand english, and then finaly she start to argue and say that she cant do that, she is not willing for that (even she say on her profile that she is willing) then she say that customer is a jerk for asking something like that!! lol
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Damn that's terrible!
And I always feel bad when I'm on my period and can't thrust the dildo deepest inside my vagina...I guess these hosts don't know a thing about Karma...and ethics! |
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hotbabee Not so new
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:16 am Post subject: / camgirls attitude |
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And btw hotbabee... if host dont like Anal... then she should not have Anal mentioned on her willingnes in profile.. u know it is called cheating and then u deserve all the rudnes you get And with high price, you cant expect customer to sit calm and wait 10 minutes in private to find out does he see anal or not.. so dont complain if customer ask anal right when he gets in private!! (usually i ask it before going in private) I admit that sometime i have been bit rude for girl who say Anal in profile, but then in private she starts to complain that she cant take a dildo in ass because she dont like it... hell i dont enjoy my job either, but if i promise to work for money, then i will also keep my promise
Lorrie is right, that who deserve respect, usually also get respect from most customers
-- damfin -- member in cams.com, LiveJasmin, streammate, ImLive, CamContacts, Neon cams, wellcams (R.I.P), extasycams, peekshows, webcams..[/quote]
Hmm you probably didn't get the point of my comment at all. first of all, I'm not a model. at least not in adult. I have different job in the studio. Secoond, about the anal thing you totally misunderstood me. It's not that our models are not willing to do anal, I just tried to make an example how rude customers can be. the don't say hi how are u, just say what they want when they jump into vid.. And no, we don't accept this attitude no matter what the price of the model is.Anyway, anal doesn't necessarily mean with dildo, it can be with fingers too. Those customers, who are that cheap that can't pay for those couple of seconds saying hi..probably should find cheaper hosts. If I was in adult , I would probably be a domme and these customers could only lick the sole of my boots LOL But seriously..I disagree with the fact that clients talk to the models according how they carry themselves. They can only measure what kind of model they are with after a certain time, but not in the fraction of a second when they enter show and shout anal!! When we set low price for our models, we had the low class customers with bad attitude, so we felt sorry for our nice models and rose price for everyone. It filters out the garbage and only wealthier men will enter with relatively nice attitude.Of course we will still have rude freeloaders on sites where there is freechat (jasminlive, neoncams, Streamate), but we ignore them and concentrate only on those who have money.We have the same income because fewer clients enter for higher price, but at least the atmosphere is better and models make the same money with less work. So both sides look their interest, and I'm speaking on behalf of our models of course. However I still feel sorry for u. |
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Lorrie Old hand
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Portland, Oregon USA
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:06 am Post subject: / camgirls attitude |
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| hotbabee wrote: |
I disagree with the fact that clients talk to the models according how they carry themselves. They can only measure what kind of model they are with after a certain time, but not in the fraction of a second when they enter show and shout anal!! When we set low price for our models, we had the low class customers . |
When you read hosts' profiles you can tell a lot about the host.
I realize that a lot of guests don't read profiles, but all I can say is it works for me being the business for 4 years. I know what great guests I have, I speak from direct personal experience, so I know what I'm talking about.
Or maybe I just have great Karma. |
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hotbabee Not so new
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:00 am Post subject: / camgirls attitude |
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Well, good for you Lorrie, but my comment was for the threadstarter. my experience is that viewers never read profiles. When I work as a chat operator, I read members asking about age etc from the models, although we created a very detailed profile for all of the models. They don't read anything, not even what the model wishes to perform.I guess they just check out the pics on the list, or go to freechaat video to see how models really look like and they pick without reading anything.Well, their blood is probably not in their brain by then...
| Lorrie wrote: | | hotbabee wrote: |
I disagree with the fact that clients talk to the models according how they carry themselves. They can only measure what kind of model they are with after a certain time, but not in the fraction of a second when they enter show and shout anal!! When we set low price for our models, we had the low class customers . |
When you read hosts' profiles you can tell a lot about the host.
I realize that a lot of guests don't read profiles, but all I can say is it works for me being the business for 4 years. I know what great guests I have, I speak from direct personal experience, so I know what I'm talking about.
Or maybe I just have great Karma.  | |
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