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fred0s
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:55 am    Post subject: Are most of these girls from third-world countries? / Are most of these girls from third-world countries?

I would assume that they are because there you could pay them less for the same amount of work someone in a more developed country would. 
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minniesoporno
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004

Location: Toronto

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:30 am    Post subject: / Are most of these girls from third-world countries?

Not all of them are.

Just it's easier to "pimp" girls out on a webcam then in other industries.

and places in north american canada and usa the girls are more likely to do it by themselves because they have more resources to find out what is really going on.

Very few girls from other girls are able to set up doing webcam by themselves those are the lucky ones.
 
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Hony
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: / Are most of these girls from third-world countries?

What's your definition of third world? A lot of them are from eastern Europe which possibly has limited economic development, but is hardly third world.

Any online work is liable to migrate to places were the cost of living are lower. Try to employee a freelance programmer these days and they are liable to be from India, Russia etc.

For that matter try to hire a real life qualified nurse in the US or England and they are liable to come from the Philippines or Poland!

Welcome to the 21st Century. big grin
 
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hotbabee
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Joined: 10 Apr 2008


Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:42 am    Post subject: / Are most of these girls from third-world countries?

I agree, Eastern Europe does not mean third world countries, and most girls work from home. Only the poorest from Russia and Romania, and very few from other Eastern European countries work from studio. It doesn't require luck or brain to set up a business from home. Just a little money for a laptop, net connection and a cam. And read on the sites what to do is all. I don't think North American girls have more resources or advantages . Actually they will stop this business the soonest because as there are more and more sites and the prices will decrease, they will be the first who can't do a living on it. I don't have any problem with being E-European, my spelling is better than that of most naive speakers, and although I have an accent, men LOVE it smile 
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Hony
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject: / Are most of these girls from third-world countries?

Of course what is new today is that with the US$ collapsing there will be more european customers and more US hosts!

That hasn't happened today but when Euro cam sites start to realize this it will happen -- except maybe a problem will be that US hosts are going to only speak English or Spanish while the Euro customer may want their local language.
 
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RKLover
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Joined: 09 Feb 2008

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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:13 am    Post subject: / Are most of these girls from third-world countries?

hotbabee wrote:
I agree, Eastern Europe does not mean third world countries, and most girls work from home. Only the poorest from Russia and Romania, and very few from other Eastern European countries work from studio. It doesn't require luck or brain to set up a business from home. Just a little money for a laptop, net connection and a cam. And read on the sites what to do is all. I don't think North American girls have more resources or advantages . Actually they will stop this business the soonest because as there are more and more sites and the prices will decrease, they will be the first who can't do a living on it. I don't have any problem with being E-European, my spelling is better than that of most naive speakers, and although I have an accent, men LOVE it smile


Studios are big in Russsia, Ukraine, Slovokia, Hungary and Romania.
I think not just because girls do not have resources. Also because of police and mafia. The studio owners pay them off and girls need protection
 
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Emphasis
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Joined: 17 Feb 2005

Location: Worldwide

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: / Are most of these girls from third-world countries?

RKLover wrote:
hotbabee wrote:
I agree, Eastern Europe does not mean third world countries, and most girls work from home. Only the poorest from Russia and Romania, and very few from other Eastern European countries work from studio. It doesn't require luck or brain to set up a business from home. Just a little money for a laptop, net connection and a cam. And read on the sites what to do is all. I don't think North American girls have more resources or advantages . Actually they will stop this business the soonest because as there are more and more sites and the prices will decrease, they will be the first who can't do a living on it. I don't have any problem with being E-European, my spelling is better than that of most naive speakers, and although I have an accent, men LOVE it smile


Studios are big in Russsia, Ukraine, Slovokia, Hungary and Romania.
I think not just because girls do not have resources. Also because of police and mafia. The studio owners pay them off and girls need protection


LMAO, sorry, I do not wanna sound rude or mean, but you have no idea what you are talking about:) What mafia? And what police? I am romanian. I have been a camgirl for 7 years, and a studio owner for over 5 years now. The only "mafia" I can think of are other studio owners trying to mess up my girls' ratings on ImLive (without success whatsoever) lol. Police? Hey this is not an action movie - the police could care less. The law in Romania is very interpretable when it comes to adult activities, and the only problem a studio can have with the police is ONLY if there are underage people working there. No matter if you go for the legal way like i did, start your own company, pay taxes for the income generated by video chat, or if you choose the sneaky way, the police has nothing to do with you. Come on now. let's get serious, it's just video chat, not The Godfather=))
 
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Squirtlady
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:14 am    Post subject: Camhost ratings, rates, survival / Are most of these girls from third-world countries?

I agree, far from being 3rd world. In regard to supposed payoffs, my entry here is in response to bits and pieces of the posts above and my opinion. Let's call it "behind-the-scenes" instead of the underworld...
Most sites don't have a feature to block studio owners from controlling camhosts ratings. This is unfortunate to the camhosts in competing sites. It is also misfortunate to "customers" who are given "Shill" (fake) ratings, which happens with auction sites and other.
There probably would never be a cam workers union. But if everyone across the board agreed to keep rates higher, it would not matter if one was in Yugoslavia, Russia, Romania or whatver or whether they are in US.......All would make better money as the demand for sex crosses through economic trends.
There is a movie called "Human Trafficking" with Donald Sutherland...Not implying that people do it in this trade, just is interesting.
One of the main reasons I am concerned and mentioning this movie and my "fantasy" that there be a union is something that concerns me: Fisting.... so many men ask for this to "push the envelope".....I am not writing this for the woman that might actually like this. The means for survival tells me that alot of women are ruining their precious bodies to accomodate the increasing demand for this !!!!!
PS. Dear Hony, I know you read this and it was addendem to posts on this, but perhaps this could be posted elsewhere if you like.
 
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the saned
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Joined: 19 Apr 2008


Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: / Are most of these girls from third-world countries?

I've met a host in real live, also met a (small) studio boss, both from St. Petersburg.
Not that I would say it's a third world country, on the contrary but they had been threatened with some mafia guys that wanted a piece of the pie as well.
So it does happen.

Luckily most hosts start working for themselves as soon as they can. Lowering the attention of the mafia.

In regards to Squirtlady I have to agree as well. My argument in regards to anal is: if you never tried it, don't ask the host as well.
Can't really say the same about fisting, although some hosts claim that they do anal fisting as well. Would never do it, but I may be different and respect every host and see every one of them as a human being, sometimes I notice some punters do not.

And yes, I did try anal myself, and after the initial pain I must say it was rather pleasant. But it's never going to be my favourite waste of time or pleasure part.
As I wouldn't even dare to get a fist near my arse I will never ask a host to preform it Smile

Fred0s assumption seems wrong to me. As costs of living is a lot lower in eastern Europe, Azia and Russia compared to the US and western Europe the earnings for hosts makes it easier to earn a good living in their country than in the US and western Europe.
When more euro-sites come up, it will be even better value for those hosts.

And a union? Why not? but due to so many countries that hosts come from and the different sites spread all over the world on a legal basis a union will be hard. in The Netherlands there is a union for prostitutes and they offer a good service. But since it's the sex industry a lot of people are not willing to raise their voice and publicly come out. And regulation will be harder and dodgy business will continue.

Best offer is this forum, being independent and where hosts and customers can discuss freely the rotten apples on the net.
Downside is that website owners are far more aware of this forum than any punter or host. But it does gives the opportunity to express concerns and give praise where needed.
 
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Squirtlady
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:06 am    Post subject: To The Saned / Are most of these girls from third-world countries?

Dear The Saned,
Thanks for your great input!! You can probably help more of us in the US understand what goes on where you are at. I hear super high internet speed via fiber optics and electric-line broadband has been around alot of Europe. So not 3rd world. Just maybe expensive. Most of these technologies are in Beta in the US still. A must for studios, telecommuters, or multi-taskers.
Being we are in widely different personal lives aside from doing this, it is refreshing to hear what others go through, who do what we do.
 
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the saned
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: To The Saned / Are most of these girls from third-world countries?

Squirtlady wrote:
I hear super high internet speed via fiber optics and electric-line broadband has been around alot of Europe. So not 3rd world. Just maybe expensive..

Well I live as far west in Europe as possible and compared to my old country (NL) it's still very 3rd world country in regards to internet connections. I still dream of fibre optics as well. Best I can get is a (claimed) 8mbit line. But the mainland or UK does have speeds for consumers going as far as 24mbit. Not everywhere but, for example, NL about 25% of the connections are ultra high speed. The same as in Denmark or Sweden.

My experience with a host from Russia date back a couple of years ago now. Life is very mixed and the gap between rich and poor is very clear. But I wouldn't call it a 3rd world country by far.
Sure it's harder to earn a good living over there as wages are not as good as in western Europe. So for many girls cams are a good way to make a very decent living.
 
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hotbabee
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: / Are most of these girls from third-world countries?

Studios are big in Russsia, Ukraine, Slovokia, Hungary and Romania.
I think not just because girls do not have resources. Also because of police and mafia. The studio owners pay them off and girls need protection[/quote]

LOL! You are funny! Mafia and police! Leave your TV alone for a short time and do some jogging instead!! LOL!!Trust me, this industry doesn't bring so much money that these "companies" like mafia and police would be interested! Protection? haha
There are not many studios here in Hungary, where I live. There were a lot but many had to close because of shitty dollar. Buying laptop and having internet connection and how to set up this everything are not a big deal in Eastern Europe, I see the one and only factor that decides if you will work from home or studio is the knowledge of language (since in studios there are operators who chat for models). I worked in many studios as operator(most of them closed by now), and all studios suffered of lack of girls, because those who speak English do it all from home, and those who neglected it in school, once they open their legs and get naked, rather choose real prostitution where they can make 5-10 times more money. As for infrastructure, I didn't do much research to find a good net connection but on the first website that I found there was a nice offer: cable net with a 20 Mb download and 3 Mb upload speed which is wow, compared to the fact that the studio where I am an operator now, has an upload speed of 4 Mb in total for all the computers!!
Beside being an operator, I also work from home, and nowadays due to the dollar/euro ratio I make most money by using my German and French than my English frown(
 
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livechatpair
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Location: Slovakia

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: / Are most of these girls from third-world countries?

very nice post...and you have total true...in slovakia is the situation the same as in hungary in nowadays...IMO slovakia and hungary dont have even 1/100 of camgirls comparing to russia and romania 
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John.
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:35 am    Post subject: / Are most of these girls from third-world countries?

hotbabee wrote:
I agree, Eastern Europe does not mean third world countries, and most girls work from home. Only the poorest from Russia and Romania, and very few from other Eastern European countries work from studio. It doesn't require luck or brain to set up a business from home. Just a little money for a laptop, net connection and a cam. And read on the sites what to do is all. I don't think North American girls have more resources or advantages . Actually they will stop this business the soonest because as there are more and more sites and the prices will decrease, they will be the first who can't do a living on it. I don't have any problem with being E-European, my spelling is better than that of most naive speakers, and although I have an accent, men LOVE it smile


You're writing doesn't have any accent, but I think I might be falling in love already smile
 
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tara
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Third World / Are most of these girls from third-world countries?

Hi,

I really am from the third world (Africa) The reason I took up being a cam girl is the exchange rate. When I first started 6 years ago, I earned 30 000 thousand dollars a month working as a bookeeper, had numerous perks, and yet US$125 per month gave me more money, even with my perks added on. This could possibly also be the reason why a lot of Eastern European girls do camming, as their currency is weak compared to the US$
 
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