livejasmin discriminate my models

[studiodelta]

Hello, we are 10 girls studio from Czech Republic.We are working for self. From the time when www.livejasmin.com started use prosoftware there is instituional kind of discrimination , only girls without splitcam software are listed on first pages and only those girls have better earnings.Otther girls which are using splitcam softwares are under dicrimination , they are not listed on first pages, they have smaller earnings, even they are working hard on this site. so they are second class girls. think site must stop this discrimination of women which are working hard , there must rights for all for usinf prosoftware with or without splitcam and all women have right to be listed on first pasges.All women must have right for good earnings, not just prosoftware girls without splitcam software.I think we need to talk about it because if we will let LiveJasmin to do it , also other sites start discrimination women on cams. Pls if u are for human right for all girls send complaints to admin of this site.

[Hony]

"Human right" to use splitcam? Wow, when did they add that to the Geneva Convention?

Must be right next to my human right to be a millionnaire....

[minniesoporno]

[spider]

don't know about the statement on cam and all that, or that you can call it discriminating...

what we do know is that......they are hitting the models with fines.... fines have been levied a few times....models never ever missed the live session with a member...never..
chargebacks as well.....tell me which customer refunds $1.99 some come back 2 and 3 times the room, then they refund $1.99....we are making applications other places now, not really due to a few refunds, ....livejasmin has forced us to do that....yes, i believe in working hard, and obeying rules but gestapo tactics on the models is not needed....administration coming and shouting at the model, chiding the model is bs....

[studiodelta]

1.livejasmin have two softwares for broadasting, if u use prosoftware u can not use splitcam softwares /u can not work on several sites in same time/ and u are listed on fisrt pages, if u are using common software u have not chance to earn good money, u are never listed on the first pages.Well, if |I compare Streamate and jasmin , winner is streamate, they have software equal for all and there is just rotation of pages on which are models screens. Why LiveJasmin dont have it?Because they dont carre about other models, for them is situation ok , but for majority of models there it is discrimination.Due of this situation many models feels like slaves ,they are working very hard and they are treated like second class models.It is huge discrimination in sex industry.
2. Chargebacks, yes it is true , livejasmin have this problem and many times models feel like slaves in hands of some psychopatic memebrs which want from girls in 1 minute naked show.Sometimes it is few seconds and member want ---get naked and etc.
3. Minie -big Canadian girl, pls dont smile from models from Central and Estern Europe, why u are writing that some of models earn biggest money in their lifes?And what about u?We dont live in Canada so stop those words, if not girls from Central and Eastern Europe who will work on live chats ?
4. Livejasmin must be criticised even owners of livejasmin have own rules and they are dictators for many girls.Girls have democratic law tell what they think about site livejasmin.
Girls have right leave this site also and choose better site for them.But pls dont take us law talk openly about livejasmin.We are not slaves in hands of livejasmin.

[valhalla]

Well i need to give my opinion at this subject as a customer...
I am sorry to say, but these studios like this studiodelta seems to be,
they really give bad taste to customers... do you, studiodelta, really
think that it has no matter if customers are happy or not? as a customer
who use LiveJasmin quite alot, i say that it is nice to find girls with good
video from first page, and if girls on fist page dont use splitcam, they propably
also has time to talk with customers there because they dont need to keep eye
on many chat rooms in other sites.
And what i have found out... is that usually these girls who works on many sites
using splitcam, too often they are rude, maybe they dont mean to be rude, but they
are so busy that only thing they can say is, come to pvt bb... and i dont go straight
to pvt!!! some of us customers are humans too, we want to talk a bit before pvt

So... studiodelta... stop whining about livejasmin policy... they need to think about
customers opinion too, not only you selfish models.

[spider]

studiodelta....no offense by not giving the split video priority, its is still not classified as discrimination...

for the other things as their members who demand a show in 30 seconds you are right the most demanding bunch , we agree with you.. but thats the beauty of forums like these, allowing people to share, and know that they are not the best site, they barely if ever get mentioned..

word in a community of models travels fast, and sooner than later if they continue with their ridiculous fines they will find that models will be defecting...jmo

[studiodelta]

1. Ok customers are important , but 99 percent of girls are from central and eastarn europe and they want on splitcam systyem because they want earn good money.It means they want earn money from several sites in same time.So if not those girls any site will not earn good money . So it is logical that right of girls are important.
2. It is not true that all girls with prosoftware working just for LiveJasmin even they dont use splitcamera on prosoftware. Last research showed that there is technical solution and pls all girls read it how u can stop discrimination on livejasmin with splitcamera .
3. - You need a second tv tuner or capture card installed on your computer (1 tv tuner for betapro the second one can be used for the other sites in connection with split software;
- You need a splitter cable (RCA or Svideo depending on your camera) to be able to connect same camera on both tvtuners/capture cards. If your Panasonic camera has both Svideo and RCA/Composite connectors you don’t need a splitter cable, you can use Svideo cable for 1 tv tuner and RCA cable for second tvtuner
- If you already have an working tvtuner, don’t buy same product for the second tvtuner, if both tvtuners are identical you might encounter conflicts when installing the second one.
- You need a fast computer, I recommend a dual core processor with 2GB DDR2 RAM for good performance, otherwise your computer might get frozen, Betapro takes a lot of pc resources;
- You need a fast internet connection, to be able to work on other sites as well, depending by the type of the other sites you work with and by the number of these sites, the internet upload bandwidth that you need may vary between 1MB and 3MB (maybe more depending on the factors above)

4. So girl can work on jasmin even owners have very special software prosoftware.many girls work with this system, till now it was very secret, now it is solution for everybody.
5.We are just wating for new adult live chat site which will beat livejasmin .I hope kingdom of livejasmin will go somewhere .. ,if thety dont want respect girls.

[Horny Joe]

[studiodelta]

The reson why girls want to use splitcam software is easy , any site dont have traffic for good earnings of webcammodels.So girls need work on several sites in same time.I think 99 percent of all webcam girls will agree with me.The problem of LiveJasmin are 2 softwares and discriminationon their first pages, if girl dont have their prosoftware , she is not covered on first pages, it means low earnings.But as soon majority of girls will have external or intrernal Tv card for jasmin and other caputre card for splitcam , they will work with prosoftware and for other sites in same time.It is because of earnings.The problem why girls need to work on several sites will solve only good site which pay around 50 and more percent and have big traffic. In this case webcammodels dont need to work on other sites.But site owners like Streamate or livejasmin prefer earnings systeml like 30 percent owners , 30 percent models , 10percent bank transactins, 30 percent webmasters. The models must have majority of earnings and not owners and webmasters.I think soon will be other new sites which will beat livejasmin and they will treat with models better as dpends of behavior and earnings.

[spider]

studiodelta...........no matter which way you phrase it, a camsite not allowing split video is not discrimination.

you are right 30% is paltry really when the model is the one that does most work...but hey, someone has to eat up their overhead right.........then you have those models who work for studios and their pay is split even deeper.....of course they need split video and several camsites.... too many middle men....lol

some of the most successful models never worked split video and several sites at the same time...so how did they become so successful?...you do the math..

they also never bent over in free chat, and exposed themselves to the core, as many have been thought by their bosses........so how do you think the models who don't use prosoftware on jasmin are making their money?...surely they are not there just moonlighting, and no bills to pay.

as for more sites opening up, there is always room for new, and improved.......the ones that exist, and their rules always chase the models away, and to the new competitor...

[mortalez]

Thats the problem with split cams, I have been in a room for almost half an hour before a model even acknowledged anyone in the room.

[minniesoporno]

The problem goes right back to your model release forms that EVERY model signed when they join ANY major cam site out there.

You agree that your image you are producing to the site will be their, and that you agree to the obsenity laws and regulations the problem with using splitcam or any camera splitter software out there like manycam, cammax or whatever else is being created is that NO ONE can multi-task with their full attention.

Your attention gets distracted if your room is busy you have many 50 to 300 viewers in your room some are logged in, some are not, and some are there just to be annoying chatters.

To many all those things going in your room you will forget to do something i.e log off a chat on another site when you are privat room when you do that you risk having your account suspended and also you risk breaking the LAW.

Sites now with the 2257 crack down really do not have time for models in any part of the world breaking the rules. now with 2257 many sites have closed a lot of accounts for various reasons one of them being nude in free chat.

to the point where some sites make you agree to those rules before you even enter your free chat area of course some girls out there ignore it and in the end they lose their money.

This is not discrimation at all this is just the sites protecting themselves from 2257 and any other regulation out there for them to run a proper site.

NOW I am not bashing using splitcam I use it myself on very specific sites that I know I can give my undvided attention. Yes you have more oppurtunity to make money, and yes you get yourself more exposure but I use splitcam for the spefici reason that I Can take multple photos of my shows and record them for my own website so I can make more money.

but once I know I am losing focus I turn off splitcam and work one site at a time, the sites need 2 things to run properly models to give the entertainment and customers to buy it.

IF the models are not doing their servivce properly customers will leave and in the end no one will make money.

[dreamvisionmodels]

[mortalez]

Yes the only way to do that is maybe with peekshows since they allow you to be nude in free chat, so if you get a pvt on
http://www.ghettocams.cn.to/

you can stay on peekshows without breaking rules, but it is still not a good idea to be on more than one site at a time, 2 at the most, but the problem is some people are on like 5 or more sites at once and mistakes happen, and viewers get either a free show or pissed from being ignored.