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Hippie
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Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:29 am Post subject: ex-camgirl on SF / Thoughts about Secretfriends... |
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SOMFW sounds very familiar to me. If I'm right, he was a visitor on a site I worked on a year ago, where I could set my own rate. It was pretty decent, $2.5, and this guy (exactly the same username and the same kind of language) entered my free room over and over and talked to me as if I were some kind of garbage, telling me that I'm delusional if I think anyone will pay more than $1/minute. He also pointed out how lucky I should feel to be getting such "easy money", apparently much more than the normal wage in "my Third World country". The guy if one of the biggest jerks I ever met in this job - if he's the same one, and I think he is.
Coming back to SF, I also worked there for a while, a few years ago, when I was one of the first to openly refuse shows. And I have no reason to lie - I was in private chat most of the time. I wasn't trying to keep guys in no-matter what. To the guys who asked for nudity, I said no in the first few minutes, so they didn't waste more than $3-4 (of which I got about $0.5, so there was really no incentive to keep them there if they didn't want to stay, it was all the same if they stayed 1 minute or 10). I had the regulars, about half a dozen wonderful people, who really did want to chat for hours. I had no contact with the site admins, because I was working in a studio; the studio owners just put me in front of the cam and said: "do whatever you like".
I left because of the low rates and because I wasn't happy in that studio, but SF is till one of the best sites I've worked on in terms of traffic and politeness of guests. And I think they shouldn't give any refunds on the grounds that a model refused nudity; the free preview is there for a reason. When you see a girl dressed, typing for hours, and you go in and ask for nudity, you shouldn't be surprised if she won't do it. After all, she risks losing one of her regulars (who spends hours with her every day) for a few minutes of showing her pussy... It's not worth it.
To end this: there are thousands of websites; if a member is too cheap to go to a hardcore (more expensive) site which guarantees him a nude show, and thinks he can see everything in 5 minutes for 5 lousy bucks, it's his problem. |
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AlanTAK69
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Joined: 14 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: about reena / Thoughts about Secretfriends... |
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| blue_sea wrote: | | Yellow Cake wrote: | | raulgonzales wrote: | | Does anyone know if Reena got naked at the begining...if yes please tell me where can i find some photos. Thank you. |
Yes, just as Allye, Reena has, indeed, posed nude. Lovely hard nipples and with a landing strip (not completeltyshaved). No beaver shots, tho', |
I am sure they don't do nude, neither Reena nor Allye, but maybe in your dreams ...they did  |
Says those like you and John23, who probably don't have 300 DVDs full of webcam captures like those of us who know how to watch a webcam..  I need to make a guide. A lot from when I was watching camsathome, haven't in a while since my friends left and it changed drastically when they moved the house to Romania.
Both of these girls have been at least topless, pretty sure Reena was nude a time or two but likely hiding.. Even Anette had a boob fall out now and then.. Actually now that I think about it Reena came back for a while recently, way more nakedness going on this time..
Probably take forever and a day for me to hunt through it all and find something like that though. Maybe not for Reena a little, that was recent. For sure the last time Reena was on SF she was getting at least topless a little more often, although still rare. You just had to leave it up a while and see, helps to have it capture a while and come back and scan.. Of course for private use only, but if I can find something I'll take a still and censor it, they probably won't mind that too much, just to prove it's real. I mean duh guys they both had some topless pics in their 'other chat pictures' IIRC, even if they had an arm over for the pic.
A lot of the girls who don't really want to, will sometimes just a minute for that special customer who's spent tons of time or if things are really slow.
SOMFW, what an idiot! (Sorry mod but I think this is an accurate IQ assessment, not an insult, 60 IQ makes it a legal IQ term, not a slam..)
This is a tiny tiny fraction of girls in these countries. Do YOU look good enough to get on cam? NO, of course not..
Lets see some things to refute your ideas..
First off, helps to have a real clue. Yes, there are some real pros out there, but super easy to tell the really new/shy girls from the fakers. Just like a girl who never danced before but does crazy pole tricks, you can tell from a few minutes of chat or show if a girl is really new or not.
Many many of the girls are doing this to make money for school. A lot of girls don't want to do this, or at least not for their whole life, but it's one of the few ways to make decent money in their countries without working endless tiring hours at a regular job, so is very compatible with school. One of my friends from DS had to move to Moscow for school, and there's no DS or SF studio there. (And BTW duh, I have emails from Dawn from asking about studios there to SF support, before I ever found this forum..) Anyway gave her my email address to keep in touch since she was leaving, and a few weeks later got an email.. Now we're back in touch and she's on a different site. I'm not rich but I've tried to send her some $$$ since it's more efficient than money through a site, but she just wants a blue bra, since I said it was my favorite a long time ago.. She's in a program to study in the UK, and now that I thought to mention it she might even come here. I'm in a tourist town, Russian girls come on programs to work here for the summer as waitresses and some dance in the clubs here. I'm not Mr Handsome, but things might even work out, of course it helps lots to have those like you making me look great! Can't say who since no doubt a hundred dorks would be after her, but a great girl and a quite real person. And no I'll never even mention who or what site here because of that, so she's not one of the girls I'll point out as great now and then, they will just be other girls I like..
LOL the more I look, it's easier to just say everything in your post was wrong. Actually a lot of the guys who just chat with no nude forever aren't chivalrous like your assumption, actually they're other jackasses just like you except rich, and they want to monopolize a girl's time. Of course a few are just nice too and have too much money to spend, even though that ruins some good girls for everyone else.
Like everything people are people and there's a wide range, your trying to reduce it to something super simple and all one way for your simple thinking doesn't make it so.
And another duh, if you didn't figure it out, several of the no or little nude girls on SF were working from the same rooms. A 'studio' like that can easily be a single girl who doesn't want to do nude, then lets some of her friends come make some money too. There doesn't have to be some evil overlord in charge. Some girls who are new and clearly don't know what they're doing jump in and get naked in a second because they're not shy about their bodies, while others who know you have seen them a dozen times are still shy to even take off their clothes. Not because they're that money grubbing for a few extra minutes, but because they're just not that comfortable to be getting naked in the first place. Go get naked in front of a bunch of strangers and see, it's not that easy for most people but for some it's a breeze.
At any rate SF and DS are great. There is plenty of other free nudity out there on the net, but getting to watch free keeps you interested in the girls you like and finding others from looking around on the site, yet it's always more fun when you can get some time and have them do things you like. A great all nude strip club 30 minutes away, but usually it's more fun on these two sites since there's more time to chat personally while doing things..
BTW Guys wow I am liking Milissa on SF!! Girl is new and still a little shy, but wow she looks great! Of course the site is chock full of great girls right now, this is a good time of year, same with DS.. |
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AlanTAK69
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Joined: 14 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:16 am Post subject: / Thoughts about Secretfriends... |
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| Heads up, Reena is on right now.. I haven't seen her on in a while, she must have just come back again fairly recently. Of course some girls are sporadic anyway, only coming on now and then when extra rent money is needed or similar.. |
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