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Hony
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Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:04 pm Post subject: Is the cam world getting boring? / Is the cam world getting boring? |
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Is it just me because I spend all my free time looking at cam sites -- until my eyes water over and I can't tell which ones are which -- but it starts to get boring. 
Do you -- the viewers -- start to get bored? You know you are never going to meet those girls in real life, it's just a show and a fantasy.
Do you -- the hosts -- start to get bored? Yes you can earn some money, but for most of you is it really worth while, you could be doing something else online to earn more.
Maybe it's one of those things where people drop out and new people move in -- but will it run out one day?
CB Radio was big once, so was hoola hoops. 
What do you think?
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mistressscarletx
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Joined: 18 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:21 pm Post subject: / Is the cam world getting boring? |
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Actually, I find that some viewers are boring, but the ones who are not more than make up for it. I get to "meet" many different men and I do like to have a bit of conversation along with the cybersex, to get a feel for my customer.
Also I find there is an endless variety of turn-ons out there. Amazing how much variety there is - some men with a foot fetish who like high heels, some who get turned on by having me watch them, etc etc. As long as it's legal and not against obscenity regulations of the site I'm working with I enjoy hearing about all their different fantasies. |
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darkangelbliss
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Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: florida
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject: / Is the cam world getting boring? |
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Excellent topic! 
I would think that online cyber sex/fantasies would not just be a fad as it is still much more personal than a magazine or porn flick, two adult industries that seem will never die out. The idea that one can actually develop an online relationship of sorts and get the personal attention they desire should keep many interested for along time.
I personally tired of cam shows involving any fantasies not specifically involved with the BDSM realm--just wasn't me! I now happily entertain my niche..domination, with no exceptions, submissives/slaves/sissies and a few other select fetishes which I find perfectly enjoyable! It is a learning adventure and exploration.
I was also surprised at how much I really like phone sex domination. This new element for me keeps my interest peaked!
| Quote: | | Yes you can earn some money, but for most of you is it really worth while, you could be doing something else online to earn more. |
I would sure love to know what that could be Hony.. always looking for new opportunities to make more $$$. hehehe!
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sheila
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Joined: 13 Mar 2005
Location: Romania
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject: / Is the cam world getting boring? |
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| yes as a host become boring if u work every day and same hours....weeks and weeks ...i wish to try something new...do u have any ideeas hony? (about new things u can do on internet ) but everything become boring in time....to not get bored doing something depends on you...how creative u can be...that`s my opinion.. |
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Lorrie
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Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject: / Is the cam world getting boring? |
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| darkangelbliss wrote: | Excellent topic!
| Quote: | | Yes you can earn some money, but for most of you is it really worth while, you could be doing something else online to earn more. |
I would sure love to know what that could be Hony.. always looking for new opportunities to make more $$$. hehehe!
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lol! That's what I was thinking. Believe me, I have spend hundreds of hours in the few years of owning a PC to look for ways to earn more money; that's how I discovered the world of adult webcam! Entrepreneur Richard Williams, father of tennis stars Venus and Serena Williams, once said he suggested his daughters stop playing tennis and pursue the Internet as work because they could make much more money!! 
The thought DOES sound a bit realistic: Adult webcamming could die down. Like I have a feeling reality shows will.....That's why I'm always into other things....Like counseling people online. People will always have issues in their life, so I think I will keep doing that, though it pays less than adult webcamming--so far. Plus, it's a more specialized field: I KNOW being an adult webcam performer is more than just getting naked but anybody can take their clothes off for money. What's that saying?...'If you can't sell pussy, you can't sell anything!'  But not everyone has the talent of professionally counseling people; so there is a lot less competition in that field of work that I also do.
So doing other things on the Internet keeps me from getting bored with being an adult webcam performer. Also, like Angel stated, I only do shows that are really fun for me, and I'm pleasantly surprised that I have a nice audience in spite of my pickiness about what I do and don't do in shows. 
Being in the entertainment business--especially for us, with the gov't. breathing down our necks, it's extremely wise to be doing other things to make money, because being a performer, the money can stop coming in almost literally overnight, and I think viewers getting tired of just watching and not really being with a webcam performer could be one of the reasons.
Adult films are different. I think they will always be around because there's A LOT more money invested into that and those peformers really do become famous celebrities like Jenna Jamison and Ron Jeremy. Quite a few are millionaires.
If more money is thrown towards marketing the adult webcam business, and the industry starts making selected webcam performers into real celebrities with marketing, advertising....Then I think the adult webcam business will stay around for a long time. Lots of big promotions, gorgeous women marketed, major, professional advertising like they do with adult films will keep viewers interested. But we need more rich investers to make that happen. It's all about money.
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secret
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Joined: 28 Sep 2004
Location: europe
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:08 am Post subject: Quality not quantity / Is the cam world getting boring? |
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I think if you spend a long time doing *anything* it becomes boring, too much computer use gets boring, too much work gets boring and too much sex gets ..
In 2001/2002 there were few sites with little competition that gave some fortunate girls very lavish lifestyles. Today it is quite difficult for the majority of chathosts to make a good wage, because there are so many chathosts online...maybe I am wrong. Sites seem to be reducing their prices and girls complain of ever decreasing $/minute incomes, but viewers know many work on 2 or 3 sites and will register on the sites that offer the cheapest $/min
Personally I don't know how some chathosts cope when working 10 hours a day looking at a computer screen. Here we have a minimum wage of $9/hour, I know some girls make more than $90 a day but not all do, they could be doing any job for more money and enjoying real social interaction...but I guess it depends on the personal circumstances and the local job market.
Someone needs to inject some life into online camsites with a fresh approach, new ideas.and better work practices. Who knows..maybe someone will put the 'fun' back into the business
You can make money on the internet doing anything, just look at the student who had the idea of selling pixels on his website to pay for his university fee's. So far he has made about $21,000 from selling 21,000 pixels of advertising space on his website http://www.milliondollarhomepage.com |
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Lorrie
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Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:56 am Post subject: Re: Quality not quantity / Is the cam world getting boring? |
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| secret wrote: | I think if you spend a long time doing *anything* it becomes boring, too much computer use gets boring, too much work gets boring and too much sex gets ..
Today it is quite difficult for the majority of chathosts to make a good wage, because there are so many chathosts online..
Personally I don't know how some chathosts cope when working 10 hours a day looking at a computer screen. Here we have a minimum wage of $9/hour, I know some girls make more than $90 a day but not all do, they could be doing any job for more money and enjoying real social interaction...but I guess it depends on the personal circumstances and the local job market.
You can make money on the internet doing anything, |
For me, webcamming for long hours is definitely not boring; maybe it's because I've only been doing it for just under 2 years so far. Working online is always something that I wanted to do, even before I owned a PC. It's part of my criteria for having the "perfect job."
As far as working offline goes, you are so right when you said *personal circumstances*. The worst emotional experiences of my life has been working offline for somebody. I can not believe the dishonesty, lying, cheating, fakeness, backstabbing, negativity that goes on in the crazy world of offline businesses with "real social interaction." Super BS office politics.  And it's in every job market it seems. No thanks. I guess it doesn't bother a lot of people (lots of people I know piss and moan to me about their offline job, hating it, but still put up with it), but I can not work in places with unethical practices, because then I'm pressured into compromising my ethics....Anyway, long stories that I won't get into here.....I'd rather stay sitting at my computer, interacting on message boards during my spare time for social interaction. Then having real offline interaction on the weekends, or sometimes in the weekday, when I'm at Central Park.
You CAN make money on the Internet doing anything, but for me, I need to enjoy doing it, and by far most jobs online is not enjoyable at all, IMO. I don't work just to make money.
Maybe I'm too much of an idealist, but that's just the way I am.
You're right on about it being difficult to make a lot of money because of so many chathosts out there. That's the main problem with working at any job where 'no experience is neccessary; anyone can do it."' One can rarely get rich by doing something everyone and their grandmother can do, because of too much competition. |
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secret
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Location: europe
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:00 pm Post subject: / Is the cam world getting boring? |
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I agree 100% and you make a good point about job satisifaction being more important than money. Im sorry you had bad experiences in an office, unfortunately there are people in all walks of life who play mind games at the expense of others. Just imagine being able to kick/ban people in an office life would be wonderful wouldn't it?.
Hony, Im not sure what you look for when visiting camsite's, have you ever tried a site like http://www.want2cam.com ?. |
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minniesoporno
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Location: Toronto
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:27 pm Post subject: / Is the cam world getting boring? |
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Its not boring for me is turning into what it is a job.
its basically reading a script everday, some wha tlike being a telemarketer calling people at dinner trying to take suverys or sell them something. |
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DanPhx
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Location: Phoenix, Arizona. USA
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:47 am Post subject: Re: Is the cam world getting boring? / Is the cam world getting boring? |
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| Hony wrote: | Is it just me because I spend all my free time looking at cam sites -- until my eyes water over and I can't tell which ones are which -- but it starts to get boring.
Do you -- the viewers -- start to get bored? You know you are never going to meet those girls in real life, it's just a show and a fantasy.
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I believe the industry is in steady state is because the balance point between people leaving (been-there-done-that) and people entering (omg-look-at-this) has been found and the innovation has all but stopped.
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Do you -- the hosts -- start to get bored? Yes you can earn some money, but for most of you is it really worth while, you could be doing something else online to earn more.
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Same old, same old. Every site is almost identical (stuck inside the boundaries of the web browser) as they chase a tiny slice of a pie controlled by someone else. I haven't seen any evidence that that pie is getting any bigger now. Perhaps someone else has?
Porn overall is still growing, but not cam.
The cam websites themselves have become a commodity middleman offering less and less value added product differentiation. Capitalism has proven time and time again that that condition preceeds a flattening. Most women who work for a site could double their income per minute and still give a discount to the consumer. That fact has some websites running scared and forcing cam hosts into exclusive contracts, in an attempt to prolong their viability as long as possible. The end of the modern cam site isn't near, but it is on the horizon.
It wasn't too long ago that people DROVE to visit a stock broker, paid $30-$50 for the priviledge to trade a measley 100 shares of stock. lol. Insane. A middle man, offering little differentiation, rediculously inefficient, eventually replaced, to the benefit of all... except the middleman.
Ultimately, trading (repetitive) minutes for dollars is foolish, so of course it gets old.
Will Jenna Jamieson tire of shooting a movie for a week and making millions ... not as quickly as someone making $2.50 per minute for one person at a time (a few times per day) who is working month-to-month to feed her family.
And when Jenna's tired... who cares? She's got millions to show for it. Last month's food and rent isn't much to show for it, by comparison.
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Maybe it's one of those things where people drop out and new people move in -- but will it run out one day?
CB Radio was big once, so was hoola hoops.
What do you think?
Hony |
Internet surely isn't going to "run out one day". Neither will porn. And neither will Internet-porn. It will evolve.
It usually takes hungry, courageous people who are NOT "content" with the status quo who want to unseat the bigger, richer suppliers/providers to blaze a new trail. But that's rare. Most people "just show up for work", "do what other people do", "play it safe" and do the best they can.
Will it be a teacher who "once and for all" takes education to the next level beyond the centurieds-old school house model? Not likely.
Will a politician in office reform politics? LOL.
Will a physicist be the next Einstein? The last one wasn't 
But you know me, Hony, I'm biased because I've created a solution. So of course I see "the problem" differently.  |
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Lorrie
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:08 pm Post subject: / Is the cam world getting boring? |
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| secret wrote: | I agree 100% and you make a good point about job satisifaction being more important than money. Im sorry you had bad experiences in an office, unfortunately there are people in all walks of life who play mind games at the expense of others. Just imagine being able to kick/ban people in an office life would be wonderful wouldn't it?.
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Yes, the work life would be wonderful!
Also, regarding more advertising, promotions, etc., to help the adult webcam business get more interesting to the masses is to have something like the AVN (Adult Video News) (anyone who hasn't seen their website should check it out; it's an excellent adult site!), but it would be the AWN (Adult Webcam News), a major trade Internet newspaper about all adult webcamming. And if it really took off, an AWN magazine to be sold at adult book stores or any place that sells adult magazines....Publicity like that could make a lot of webcam performers rich I bet!
I think there are a lot of two kinds of people:
1. People who don't know about adult webcamming.
2. People who have heard about it, but haven't decided to check it out--they keep procrastinating.
And the more publicity we get, the more likely these people above will go to a webcam site and pay to see the performers. They'd say something like, "I keep hearing a lot about adult webcam girls and how hot they are, what fun it is....I think I'll check it out." |
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latviangirls
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:17 am Post subject: It will change, but will not die / Is the cam world getting boring? |
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Yes, being a Chathost becomes boring and I don't think that anyone is going to make a career out of it for their entire lives.
We have operated a studio for a little under a year and can already see that most Chathosts get burned out over a period of time and move on to other things. No surprises there.
However, as for the industry, it's here to stay, but it will probably mutate into different forms over time. As long as guys remain horny, there will always be a demand for one-on-one video chat. It's highly addictive for the consumer. Once they have experienced it, I think that non-interactive sex entertainment would be less interesting (although that is never going to go away either)
Already the major players in this business are looking at the next generation of videochat - cellphones and interactive TV are just two mediums that are being looked at. Sex has always been at the forefront of any new technology and always will be too.
So I think that the future for videochat looks bright - it's just that it won't be be restricted to the Internet. |
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TheRealSimon
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Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: United Kingdom
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:09 am Post subject: / Is the cam world getting boring? |
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I was thinking about this the other day when I read about http://www.bigsister.net/ . It's basically a brothel in Prague where customers pay a very nominal fee for entrance in return for which site subscribers can watch their exploits. Aside from any feelings you may have on the morality of this, it does demonstrate a blurring of the host/customer boundary and is an evolution of the cam and internet sex industry.
Whether it's the future or just a new niche, I don't know... |
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veryconfused
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Is the cam world getting boring? / Is the cam world getting boring? |
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hoops are still big 
| Hony wrote: | Is it just me because I spend all my free time looking at cam sites -- until my eyes water over and I can't tell which ones are which -- but it starts to get boring.
Do you -- the viewers -- start to get bored? You know you are never going to meet those girls in real life, it's just a show and a fantasy.
Do you -- the hosts -- start to get bored? Yes you can earn some money, but for most of you is it really worth while, you could be doing something else online to earn more.
Maybe it's one of those things where people drop out and new people move in -- but will it run out one day?
CB Radio was big once, so was hoola hoops.
What do you think?
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Hony
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: / Is the cam world getting boring? |
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Hoops came back -- and got a new edge (think Hooters).
So things can come back from the dead, just like this thread.
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